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In a word, Wow. It's going to take several re-readings of your post to fully grasp it's import in the context of my own view. I think your blog has a unique focus and perspective. I wanted to convey what a revelation that video segment was. One consideration or theory concerning propulsion of these craft has been the possible use of an electrical field to "burn away" atmospheric drag,which would account for some if not all of their amazing acceleration rates. This video appears to be evidence that this theory may be wrong. Have you read "Unconventional Flying Objects" by Paul Hill, a former NASA employee? I hope you spell out more details of your views in future posts.
Dear Bruce, Yes I have. Paul Hills book helped me resolve the issue of the color of the two UFOs we witnessed. Their color was a kind of copper but mcuh more, and after reading his book I decided the color was probably some type of discharge around the ship, even though the edges seemed solid.There are two books which I have read which I think would give you great insight into this idea of "Staging" and "Applied Species Psychology. "Allien Liaison" by Timothy Good(very hard to get) And "The Hunt For The Skinwalker" By Colm A. Kelleher PH. D.and George Knapp both books were about "Cattle Ranches" where highly unusual activates were displayed including: Cattle Multlations, Metaphysical, Allien entities, Bigfoot and other animals, Craft, Solid creatures, wolves, invisibility, potergeist activities, men in black; the whole gambit.Both investigations involved science teams. One ranch was in Colorado and one in Utah. I want to quote from these books to give you idea of what was witnessed. Remember the owners were ranchers trying to make a living.In the Colorado incident at the ranch Jim one of the owners actually met a pilot of a craft and spoke with them at an arrange meeting "were two individuals waiting for me...50 or 60 feet from us was a disk on the ground...they were 5 or 6 ft tall..look like us... large eyes...finer features...I told them if they were mutilating cattle, it was very foolish..the only thing I found out for sure was "Bigfoot" abbeys their commands. Jim one of the investigators and Ex air force security officers describes his reaction to all this:"Is it possible it could have been a totally subjective experience.. even with all of us it could have been hallucinations.. Maybe we were all deceived in a way I just can't picture how. Others incidents included: Nine disk landing One indent when one of the other owners Barbara get struck by a force an pushed back when Jim tries to approach one of the saucers "I thought about (why they did this to her)...I was the one walking toward the ship...But then I started to understand...they did the most practical thing that could be done to get me back inside and get both people away from the window. ...I really began to respect how clever they were." Maybe we should listen to the witnesses a little more they have much to tell us if we will listenThe second ranch was in Utah on the "Gorman's"(not real name) ranch. It was so strange that Jim Bigalow who funded NIDS "National Institute Of Discovery Science" bought the ranch and had Tom Gorman stay on help with the ranch and the ongoing phenomenon with a team.. They still own it. Tom the owner wanted to stay on. He had lost the ranch of his dreams and he was angry at what happened. The Gorman's felt they were being watched and overhead by the phenomena. Did Gorman think some of to was "staging" yes although he didn't call it that. After years of hassles with this ongoing secret intrusion one night:..noticed a bright light that was watching him. ..he saw such objects often ..was accustomed to being watched in this manner. .. on this night he threw down his pitch fork and ran toward the object...it darted behind a ridge....Gorman quickly seized the opportunity and dove behind a ball of hay and burrowed in. Then he waited. Sure enough within a few minutes the object flew over the field flying back and forth as if looking for him. ....he had succeeded in making a fool our of the probe. A fter a while ..Gorman climb out of the hay and started shouting and taunting the object...Gorman said It blink several times on and off and flew over the ridge... Gorman felt he had shown the fallibility of the sensing system. Only later did Gorman consider the possibility that the object was only toying with him."There was something at these ranches and it was brighter then the science teams that came there. It disguised itself as several different elements but was intelligent and aware. I believe the answer was simply we were outsmarted ever inch of the way. In the end they proved they could befuddle anyone. The cattle which were mutlated were real and the disinformation campagn against the NIDS team was perfect.Pretty smart huh!Thank You Joseph CappUFO Media Matters
Hi,I corresponded with Colm over the course of several e mail exchangesnot on this experience but in a larger less specific general sense of determining what was the origination and intent of what you described. You could say this is a continuation of that process of exchanging perspectives.In my own speculations I have considered nature's inventiveness in producing such an enormous range of adaptive sensate, physical and behavorial tactics to both hunt and avoid being hunted, two sides of the same coin..sometimes it balances other times it doesnt. However, in one sense I think you hit an important point,,there is no doubt whatsoever as to who holds the upper hand if you will between ourselves and whomever or whatever they may be.So, if we assume they are hunting and they are natural in a sense that we do not recognise, one would think it reasonable they are hunting for something we cannot grasp..otherwise if it were we ourselves as the hunter being hunted...we would have lost that contest a long time ago. Also, if they have this natural capability of assuming a variety of forms as a defensive adaptation or even tact, why bother? I don't know.On my own blog I approach this from considering invisibility or not having form as a sentient and potential natural state we do not recognise. It's all anybodys guess.
Dear Bruce,Thank you for such stimulating writing. I was battleing the same battle until I reviewed the different NASA tapes. I have a friend who is anonymous he is a physicist he was very intrigued by the different objects. When you look carefully at those tapes there is something coming and going from somewhere else. I believe the best answer is entities like us. The reason they don't interfere is they can't. Why? We know there are some good answers to that but we don't which one it is or if it is many answers. As in the case of the Colorado Ranch he found no answer but when Jim reacted unexpectedly and walked toward the 9 landed disks the result was a very logical response. They knocked the woman over "Barbara" and diverted attention long enough to disappear. Why did they need to divert attention? I don't know. There is a tendency to believe this is beyond our understanding but - when Tom Gorman hid from the glob,and he was smart about how he hid, it reacted like the imperfect machine it was it lost him He said it divided the area up into quadrants and started to search for him. I think Tom over analyzed later when he felt he had been fooled and the globe knew where he was, in fact that thought may have been planted. The Wolf incident which may have been produced by the ETS was real. Is it possible to conjure up something. There seem to be rules the shamans use could the aliens know how to do this? It seems obvious they were trying to be part of a legend. One other item. There is a famous case where a prospector in Poland(I think) way out happened on a landed Disk. He walked up to it and touched it - it was warm. He called inside and the disk rotated to an exhaust vent which vented hot gas. It burnt him and left the marks on him. Perfect vent marks. Sometimes when I get to esoteric I remember that. I don't think it was Metaphysical.Your New FriendJoseph CappUFO Media Matters
I have arrived at a perspective where the metaphysical and the empirical cojoin in a mirror image of one another. This phenomenon creates a intentional situation that leads to a behavioral reaction in us wherein we cannot tell which comes first, the chicken or the egg? The empirical or the metaphysical? I think it is both, which propagates it's own difficulties in both keeping a sober perspective, and not getting stuck in the trap this situation sets, to fall into premature conclusions favoring one side or the other..whether its intentional or not as a tactic, this phenomenon conquers by the division of researchers into camps in opposition to one another,one is essentially empirical, one is metaphysically oriented, which, in turn further clouds the situation of one attempting to reach or maintain a balanced view.It shows evidence of both. My latest version of an operating theory is that we are interacting randomly and by happenstance with an unknown form of sentient life that as I have said before on my own blog, is not omniscient, but is superior to our species in that it is..to put it simply..more evolved. It uses camoflauge effectively as a natural species does, it just cannot be found in our current catalog.Reinforcing mythologies in utilising a paradoxical manifestation whether its airships, bigfoot or what have you...to date its worked very well for them. We have been sent by a trick of our sensate based awareness on a fools errand. In the meantime, they go about doing what they need to do.
Dear Bruce,We are on the same page. I believe what is here is physical apart from the metaphysical. UFO Media Matters supports the dignity of all honest witnesses to the paranormal. But there is very strong evidence of technology. There is also another strange aspect to it. I honestly believe that a physical object with aliens crashed at Roswell. The Balloon theory completely falls apart when you look carefully at the evidence. The disk was not that advanced it you believe the leaks. It may be that they don't fly the best stuff unless they have. What ever you believe from whatever leaks either fiber optics, laser, gravity drives none of it seems to be thousands of years advanced of us. However I believe they are thousands of years in advance of us. The idea that they would fly less advanced aircraft fits in well with my theory. Only Bushies don't have plan B. The ETS do and if something crashes they want us to be secure enough to think we could duplicate it and they are not that advanced. I do believe (if we ever spend the money in research) that the metaphysical will be discovered because it is there. WE have never conducted a long term well funded researched on the subject of Alien Craft as an explanation into one aspect of the UFO phenomenon. What we would need of course is a team with the right equipment to go to an ongoing flap, or genuine continuing experiencer covertly, for long term investigation. Once they were found out however by the ETs your head would be put into a spun a few times by the end of the investigation. I believe what Timothy Good believes. They have bases here. It makes sense. There was a great book "Invisible Residence" by a NAVY man Ivan T. Sanderson. All about underwater objects and the NAVY and other mariners expiriences which were well documented interaction with Unidentified Underwater objects. Wonderful read by the way a classic in UFO land. The metaphysical seems intelligent also and taps into the essence of our humanity no matter what we believe. It can change you when you experience it. But I do not think the Metaphysical is the alien unless they have much more control then I thought. I also believe in God minus religion. My God is involved with a universe(s) not just earth. The metaphysical fits well in this space because it is all about God reminding us there is more much more. It keeps my faith high and I love how it is equally express to everyone, rich, poor, uneducated, educated Catholic Protesent Jew Muslim all shades all languages maybe all universes.Joseph CappUFO Media Matters
In a word, Wow. It's going to take several re-readings of your post to fully grasp it's import in the context of my own view. I think your blog has a unique focus and perspective. I wanted to convey what a revelation that video segment was. One consideration or theory concerning propulsion of these craft has been the possible use of an electrical field to "burn away" atmospheric drag,which would account for some if not all of their amazing acceleration rates. This video appears to be evidence that this theory may be wrong. Have you read "Unconventional Flying Objects" by Paul Hill, a former NASA employee? I hope you spell out more details of your views in future posts.
ReplyDeleteDear Bruce,
ReplyDeleteYes I have. Paul Hills book helped me resolve the issue of the color of the two UFOs we witnessed. Their color was a kind of copper but mcuh more, and after reading his book I decided the color was probably some type of discharge around the ship, even though the edges seemed solid.
There are two books which I have read which I think would give you great insight into this idea of "Staging" and "Applied Species Psychology.
"Allien Liaison" by Timothy Good(very hard to get) And "The Hunt For The Skinwalker" By Colm A. Kelleher PH. D.and George Knapp both books were about "Cattle Ranches" where highly unusual activates were displayed including: Cattle Multlations, Metaphysical, Allien entities, Bigfoot and other animals, Craft, Solid creatures, wolves, invisibility, potergeist activities, men in black; the whole gambit.
Both investigations involved science teams. One ranch was in Colorado and one in Utah. I want to quote from these books to give you idea of what was witnessed. Remember the owners were ranchers trying to make a living.
In the Colorado incident at the ranch Jim one of the owners actually met a pilot of a craft and spoke with them at an arrange meeting
"were two individuals waiting for me...50 or 60 feet from us was a disk on the ground...they were 5 or 6 ft tall..look like us... large eyes...finer features...I told them if they were mutilating cattle, it was very foolish..the only thing I found out for sure was "Bigfoot" abbeys their commands. Jim one of the investigators and Ex air force security officers describes his reaction to all this:"Is it possible it could have been a totally subjective experience.. even with all of us it could have been hallucinations.. Maybe we were all deceived in a way I just can't picture how. Others incidents included: Nine disk landing One indent when one of the other owners Barbara get struck by a force an pushed back when Jim tries to approach one of the saucers "I thought about (why they did this to her)...I was the one walking toward the ship...But then I started to understand...they did the most practical thing that could be done to get me back inside and get both people away from the window. ...I really began to respect how clever they were." Maybe we should listen to the witnesses a little more they have much to tell us if we will listen
The second ranch was in Utah on the "Gorman's"(not real name) ranch. It was so strange that Jim Bigalow who funded NIDS "National Institute Of Discovery Science" bought the ranch and had Tom Gorman stay on help with the ranch and the ongoing phenomenon with a team.. They still own it. Tom the owner wanted to stay on. He had lost the ranch of his dreams and he was angry at what happened. The Gorman's felt they were being watched and overhead by the phenomena. Did Gorman think some of to was "staging" yes although he didn't call it that. After years of hassles with this ongoing secret intrusion one night:
..noticed a bright light that was watching him. ..he saw such objects often ..was accustomed to being watched in this manner. .. on this night he threw down his pitch fork and ran toward the object...it darted behind a ridge.
...Gorman quickly seized the opportunity and dove behind a ball of hay and burrowed in. Then he waited. Sure enough within a few minutes the object flew over the field flying back and forth as if looking for him. ....he had succeeded in making a fool our of the probe. A fter a while ..Gorman climb out of the hay and started shouting and taunting the object...Gorman said It blink several times on and off and flew over the ridge... Gorman felt he had shown the fallibility of the sensing system. Only later did
Gorman consider the possibility that the object was only toying with him."
There was something at these ranches and it was brighter then the science teams that came there. It disguised itself as several different elements but was intelligent and aware. I believe the answer was simply we were outsmarted ever inch of the way. In the end they proved they could befuddle anyone. The cattle which were mutlated were real and the disinformation campagn against the NIDS team was perfect.
Pretty smart huh!
Thank You
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Hi,
ReplyDeleteI corresponded with Colm over the course of several e mail exchanges
not on this experience but in a larger less specific general sense of determining what was the origination and intent of what you described. You could say this is a continuation of that process of exchanging perspectives.
In my own speculations I have considered nature's inventiveness in producing such an enormous range of adaptive sensate, physical and behavorial tactics to both hunt and avoid being hunted, two sides of the same coin..sometimes it balances other times it doesnt. However, in one sense I think you hit an important point,,there is no doubt whatsoever as to who holds the upper hand if you will between ourselves and whomever or whatever they may be.
So, if we assume they are hunting and they are natural in a sense that we do not recognise, one would think it reasonable they are hunting for something we cannot grasp..otherwise if it were we ourselves as the hunter being hunted...we would have lost that
contest a long time ago. Also, if they have this natural capability of assuming a variety of forms as a defensive adaptation or even tact, why bother? I don't know.
On my own blog I approach this from considering invisibility or not having form as a sentient and potential natural state we do not recognise. It's all anybodys guess.
Dear Bruce,
ReplyDeleteThank you for such stimulating writing. I was battleing the same battle until I reviewed the different NASA tapes. I have a friend who is anonymous he is a physicist he was very intrigued by the different objects. When you look carefully at those tapes there is something coming and going from somewhere else. I believe the best answer is entities like us. The reason they don't interfere is they can't. Why? We know there are some good answers to that but we don't which one it is or if it is many answers. As in the case of the Colorado Ranch he found no answer but when Jim reacted unexpectedly and walked toward the 9 landed disks the result was a very logical response. They knocked the woman over "Barbara" and diverted attention long enough to disappear. Why did they need to divert attention? I don't know. There is a tendency to believe this is beyond our understanding but - when Tom Gorman hid from the glob,and he was smart about how he hid, it reacted like the imperfect machine it was it lost him He said it divided the area up into quadrants and started to search for him. I think Tom over analyzed later when he felt he had been fooled and the globe knew where he was, in fact that thought may have been planted. The Wolf incident which may have been produced by the ETS was real. Is it possible to conjure up something. There seem to be rules the shamans use could the aliens know how to do this? It seems obvious they were trying to be part of a legend. One other item. There is a famous case where a prospector in Poland(I think) way out happened on a landed Disk. He walked up to it and touched it - it was warm. He called inside and the disk rotated to an exhaust vent which vented hot gas. It burnt him and left the marks on him. Perfect vent marks. Sometimes when I get to esoteric I remember that. I don't think it was Metaphysical.
Your New Friend
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
I have arrived at a perspective where the metaphysical and the empirical cojoin in a mirror image of one another. This phenomenon creates a intentional situation that leads to a behavioral reaction in us wherein we cannot tell which comes first, the chicken or the egg? The empirical or the metaphysical? I think it is both, which propagates it's own difficulties in both keeping a sober perspective, and not getting stuck in the trap this situation sets, to fall into premature conclusions favoring one side or the other..whether its intentional or not as a tactic, this phenomenon conquers by the division of researchers into camps in opposition to one another,one is essentially empirical, one is metaphysically oriented, which, in turn further clouds the situation of one attempting to reach or maintain a balanced view.It shows evidence of both. My latest version of an operating theory is that we are interacting randomly and by happenstance with an unknown form of sentient life that as I have said before on my own blog, is not omniscient, but is superior to our species in that it is..to put it simply..more evolved. It uses camoflauge effectively as a natural species does, it just cannot be found in our current catalog.Reinforcing mythologies in utilising a paradoxical manifestation whether its airships, bigfoot or what have you...to date its worked very well for them. We have been sent by a trick of our sensate based awareness on a fools errand. In the meantime, they go about doing what they need to do.
ReplyDeleteDear Bruce,
ReplyDeleteWe are on the same page. I believe what is here is physical apart from the metaphysical. UFO Media Matters supports the dignity of all honest witnesses to the paranormal. But there is very strong evidence of technology. There is also another strange aspect to it. I honestly believe that a physical object with aliens crashed at Roswell. The Balloon theory completely falls apart when you look carefully at the evidence. The disk was not that advanced it you believe the leaks. It may be that they don't fly the best stuff unless they have. What ever you believe from whatever leaks either fiber optics, laser, gravity drives none of it seems to be thousands of years advanced of us. However I believe they are thousands of years in advance of us. The idea that they would fly less advanced aircraft fits in well with my theory. Only Bushies don't have plan B. The ETS do and if something crashes they want us to be secure enough to think we could duplicate it and they are not that advanced. I do believe (if we ever spend the money in research) that the metaphysical will be discovered because it is there. WE have never conducted a long term well funded researched on the subject of Alien Craft as an explanation into one aspect of the UFO phenomenon. What we would need of course is a team with the right equipment to go to an ongoing flap, or genuine continuing experiencer covertly, for long term investigation. Once they were found out however by the ETs your head would be put into a spun a few times by the end of the investigation.
I believe what Timothy Good believes. They have bases here. It makes sense. There was a great book "Invisible Residence" by a NAVY man Ivan T. Sanderson. All about underwater objects and the NAVY and other mariners expiriences which were well documented interaction with Unidentified Underwater objects. Wonderful read by the way a classic in UFO land.
The metaphysical seems intelligent also and taps into the essence of our humanity no matter what we believe. It can change you when you experience it. But I do not think the Metaphysical is the alien unless they have much more control then I thought. I also believe in God minus religion. My God is involved with a universe(s) not just earth. The metaphysical fits well in this space because it is all about God reminding us there is more much more. It keeps my faith high and I love how it is equally express to everyone, rich, poor, uneducated, educated Catholic Protesent Jew Muslim all shades all languages maybe all universes.
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters