Star Teams Fist case:
I don't know, maybe I am crazy, but hasn't anyone over there on the new well funded "Star Team" at MUFON ever heard of speedy investigations? Heralded as an investigative team able to get anywhere in the country within 24 hours, the Star Team" took almost a week to interview a witness of a close encounter of the "second kind". Some of his experience was reported over the phone to MUFON in real time. If the Star Team had gone to the witness's home by the next day, stealthily I might add, MUFON's Star Team may have fully documented the "Men in Black".
By the time the "Star Team" got around to the site to interview the witness, he had already been questioned and warned by the "Men in Black" and harassed by helicopters. The Star Team waited until the end of the week even though he complained to them about burns and sickness the next day which had do to with a direct attack by the object. These episodes around post close encounters can include a wide range of phenomenon including: Men in Black, threatening phone calls, government men, harassing helicopters and paranormal phenomenon. This has been well documented in hundreds of reported close encounters by MUFON itself. It's like MUFON investigators will not draw from the rich UFO history on these types of encounters. Of course no one could guarantee these post UFO encounters will happen but that's what innovative investigation is all about…taking chances. Those who don't learn from history are destined to repeat the same mistake over and over. This lack of speedy action seems to have permeated MUFON to its core.
A man probably had a powerful UFO close encounter of the "second kind. The person reporting this to MUFON on the phone was very credible and as it turned out later…way later, he had physical evidence to back it up. This case is documented in the latest MUFON Journal double issue Oct/Nov 09.
Let's go straight to the time line as reported by chief investigator John Michael Kledis, and secondary investigators Robert Coey:
This was Star Teams First Case:" andit had all the elements of a drama. First report Friday September 11 9-11:30 pm & 11:45 pm till 12: 15 am:
Primary witness's son was in the back yard camping with a neighbor's child and mother. The primary witness heard his dogs barking and went to investigate, concerned about his child, and to tend to the dogs. He found his son asleep and no reason for the dogs's behavior. He went back to his home through the back porch when he happen to turn around. This is when he saw a huge trianglular object hovering and spanning the entire length of his back yard; all 125 feet of it.
The Triangle released other smaller objects of various sizes and shapes as he watched. They were about eight to ten feet wide. These objects moved about and seem to land behind some trees. They then would go back near the triangle. The witness became very excited and decided to get his DVD camera. When he tried to film this object, the camera became inoperative (the next day and in the future it was fine). This is when the witness went to get his spotlight: a one million candle version. The witness decided he would aim the spotlight at this craft. The "triangle seemed to absorb the light" as it was first pointed at it, but then it reacted with an intense bluish white beam directed at the witness from the front section of the triangle. The experiencer, feeling great heat, ducked away from it and ran went into his house.
He continued staring at the object through the window as it slowly moved away. He called MUFON and was speaking to the investigator as he described the continuing experience and watched as the two smaller remaining objects beside the triangle "shot straight up into the night sky at incredible speed" as the main object moved away slowly into the distance.
Next will be Saturday September 12th (no time given):
The witness called MUFON to complain of burns and sickness. (For me, this was is a critical moment in this case because of its implications). MUFON calls the witness and sets up a meeting with him "as soon as possible" (a week?) What followed has been repeated so many times in UFO history, that I don't know why MUFON did not see the possibility of it happening, and to try some preemptive investigation.
2am Sunday morning, September 12th, UFO Witness's home is buzzed by 5 helicopters with searchlights, one coming very close to his home. His wife witnessed them, also.
7am Sunday morning, September 12th. Two men in a dark sedan, one around 40 and the other younger, came to his door and asked to interview the witness about his sighting. They stated to the witness "we are here about the UFO report you gave." The witness assumed they were MUFON.
Later that day MUFON contacted the witness to confirm an appointment they had made for later in the week. (good going MUFON: always a bride's maid). So I ask you, the reader, am I crazy or do you also see a missed opportunity here? First, if they had made it there by Saturday (convincing the witness how important it was to be there as soon as possible) they could have staked out the house and recorded it all. Second, either someone is tapping the phones at MUFON or some of the people at MUFON are in "intelligence".
Sunday 5-6pm, a helicopter circles the witness's premises and he gets a photo of it. No lost time on other phenomenon was noted.
MUFON's "Star Team" is never going to achieve anything that is new if they continue to do what has been done for decades: after the fact investigations.
On a brighter note there is a new editor of the MUFON journal and he sounds like he wants to bring the Journal up to the twenty first century. He seems to want to include new authors and he has decided to "open Pandora's box" and ask suggestions from those of you out there in MUFON land.
My suggestions:
First: Stop publishing articles attacking old UFO cases that rarely prove anything anyway, and start publishing articles on UFOs sightings in the 21 century.
Second: Publish articles critical of MUFON. We know the organization is not perfect and it needs to be air out from some of the old stuff. Who else but the rank and file can help MUFON achieve this?
My first allegiance is to the UFO witness and to getting his/her/their experience out to the investigators as quickly as possible. It is up to the investigators to gather the best supporting documentation possible. I doubt MUFON's Star Team will ever be able to do this if they constantly play catch-up.
Joe Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog
DVD: Family harassed by MIB
**I think the body of your article was accidentally posted twice.
ReplyDeleteTwo days ago, I made a comment on my FB about the MUFON journal and that membership fees are sure as shit not going to journal upkeep. Mostly it was in jest, jabbing at the sometimes poor editing and almost un-viewable photos. In the back there are user submitted photos. some that are artwork -- which are printed in lack and white, and barely visibly.
Of course, I prefer my fees go to actual investigation stuff over a nicer journal, I think you get my point.
I love uncle Stan but if I have to read one more article about the authenticity of the MJ12 papers, I may jump consider boring my eyes out.
Now -- regarding the response team. This is the first I have heard of this specific situation, and I agree with you that they probably missed the boat on this due to tardiness.
dear Interstellar Housewife,
ReplyDeleteThanks i did double post but I fix it a friend let me know. When you wrote "if I read one more paper on MJ12" I fell down laughing.
Last Issue they took on the Marjorie Fish map the current Dec. issue looks at the Lonny Zomora...Dear God they can't let him rest in piece. After all that nonsense about balloons and MIT hoaxers we are right back where we started with that case except for one small fact what a waste of time as far as Marjorie Fish story Stanton took them on in the next issue.
I don't know but I see many a UFO story out there. The Gorilla just coughed.
Thanks
Joe
UFOMM
I considered joining the local MUFON recently. I went to their website and saw that their next event was someone talking about Crop Circles. I was terribly disappointed and just dropped the whole thing. Crop Circles are nothing but a distraction and really have nothing to do with UFOs. I was sorry to see MUFON wasting its time and the time of its members on them. I realize others may have a differing opinion here and I'm ok with that.
ReplyDeleteDear Trained Observer,
ReplyDeleteI will tell you the truth I go back and forth on crop circles. I don't know which meeting you are talking about but that what you state is true about some local MUFON's meetings entertain topics that some may consider are too far out.
But don't let that dissuade you. You will fine many their at the meetings that are into skeptical scientific methods being applied to this enigma. I believe somehow it is important to air crop circles and other topics because we don't know for sure and if there is independent documented scientific evidence to bolster their position. So I will listen but at this point in my life I pretty sure when I am being told a story.
Thanks T.O. Also you would like the MUFON Journal dispute it's flaws it is totally based on scientific investigation procedutes. I just would like them to take on many more recent sightings.
Joe
UFOMM
Local MUFON chapters are in their own ways, independent of MUFON itself. The directors for the local chapters sometimes have different interests or focuses, but that shouldn't really effect the investigation aspect.
ReplyDeleteHere in OR, MUFON has monthly meetings and sometimes the topic of those meetings is stuff I'm not interested in -- but what this really is, is MUFON doing *something* to sort of help members feel like their money is for something tangible and ongoing. MUFON membership would probably drop significantly if they didn't put things out like the MUFON Journal or or hold meetings which discuss areas of UFOlogy that not everyone has interests in. It is important to realize that MUFON itself doesn't necessarily support the ideas of the local chapter directors.
There's probably a chapter out there that is in support of Romanek (God knows why), but MUFON'S official position is that the Romanek case is most probably a hoax.
I still think MUFON is a good organization, but its reputation is affected sometimes by the actions or opinions of it's chapters. I try to look past this and remember that while I may not like a particular view held by the directors, I still like what the organization is doing, overall.
I agree I think I was hoodwinked by Romanek I will be at the International UFO Congress (Travis Walton is to speek) and get a first hand look at "the most documented" abduction case as Romanek presents the evidence at the congress. Carrion bought up a important point, although I don't like how he went about it. A friend of mine was swearing by Romanek but now he's not so sure.
ReplyDeleteI wait till I see what he presents.
Also about chapters Romanek spoke at some of the MUFON chapters in Colorado and I think Nevada. He had a "good" MUFON investigators but I don't know if you heard about a constant misspelling of a word that appeared not only in the anonymous reports but in the "in his government document" James Carrion, got a copy of the document, through the back door so to speak that's is what I didn't like. Getting the document didn't bother me as much as notifying them before he published and and giving them time to rebut what facts he presented.
if they are not lying than they are to entrenched in making money from this. I don't like it either way.
I think the "Star Team" should be called the "Slow Team" LOL
Joe
UFOMM
In regards to Romanek -- his allegiance with Peckman is enough to put me way off. Never mind the book deal and the fact that he had previously claimed to be rather intelligent, but when he had his 'experiences' then claimed to have the education of an 11th grader (or something like that) which proved his automatic-writing of mathematical equations were from an external source.
ReplyDeleteThe misspelled word was "Fallow", which, of course, is one of the bigger red flags.
And Star Team -- I can't even believe they had the audacity to name their team 'Star Team'. It sounds like the name of an organization in some 1950s serial. "Oh no! Evil Robots are invading Earth! Let's call 'Star Team'!!".
Then they all fly into scene with primitive looking jetpacks, suspended by a rope.
The End.
Ha!
I didn't want mention the silliness of the name I get enough grief from James Carrion.
ReplyDeleteHappy a funny Christmas and New Year
joe
ufomm
Heres to all a pleasant, and Peaceful Holiday Season, as this year moves into the next.
ReplyDeleteJoseph-
Your continuing work on behalf of witnesses to this phenomenon/phenomena is greatly appreciated, and I look forward to your future articles, and opinions.
/Bob
Thank you Bob and thank you for your comments and your insight.
ReplyDeleteHere is wishing your holidays will be bright and happy.
Joe
UFOMM
Greetings,
ReplyDeleteThe witness made several mistakes I hope others don't make if they become involved with a UFO incident or a crop circle.
1. If exposed to any type of unusual phenomena immediately seek medical attention. Notify all authorities of the incident including MUFON.
2. Get photos or videos of anything unusual if possible from a distance.
3. If a landing has taken place or a crash be aware that many modern aircraft are built of extremely hazardous chemicals and metals (Ex: hydrazine). Do not approach a crash site until a hazard team has arrived and declared the area safe. ETBs could well have pathogenic microbes that are detectable or hazardous substances. This is a matter best left to those trained to deal with it.
4. Thoroughly identify all persons you come in contact with to include who they are by name/title and who they work for. Insist they show you proper ID or tell them in direct fashion you will report them as suspected terrorists. Do not be intimidated by so called security forces unless they clearly are from a known government agency such as the DOD, NSA or the DOE.
These agencies do have permission to declare emergencies and remove people from an area. They will normally tell you though what's up and why you need to beat it such as a DOD Broken Arrow.
Specifically, I don't recommend shooting at flying saucers or aliens if you really encounter one. If they came here they can defend themselves if needed and their weapons will be advanced beyond ours.
My best and Merry Xmas.
Dear Air Force 1949,
ReplyDeleteThank you for the tips. I just hope MUFON's "Star Team" also takes some tips. There is a program called "48 Hours". It is about Homicide detective and how crucial the first 48 hours are in solving a mudercase.
I think this may be a good way to address UFO sightings important enough for the "Star Team. Get there quick if need be stake out the house.
Either UFOs are nothing and the Military isn't interested or someone is scaring UFO witnesses and we need to catch them first handed.
Thanks agan:
Just wondering if you were in the air force in 1949?
Good year for sighting saucers.
Thanks
Joe
UFOMM
Non-Commercial Blog
Just picked up your link from The Anomalist. Your comments about the investigative team (aka the Star Team) are right on the money. Investigations need to be performed in real time. ESPECIALLY if there is potential physical or medical evidence. Once the witness called and reported "burns" somebody, somewhere should have been on it like white on rice. While I support MUFON in a general sort of way (more like wishing them well....) this investigative team seems to be more of the smoke and mirrors that, unfortunately, seems to typify what is called "ufology".
ReplyDeleteOh, on a different note I have to applaud and support your stance regarding the witnesses. As much as anything its the witness who is at the center of this topic. They need to be treated with a great deal of respect, understanding and support. As much as anything investigators ought to be judged by how they regard the witnesses.
Dear MnDoc,
ReplyDeleteThank you. Your remarks about UFO witnesses was right on. If any UFO Witness's case becomes national news, like Lonnie Zamora the policeman who witnessed the landed UFO with occupants, they need to watch out. As he was dying here comes the UFO researchers out of the trenches, finding other explanations for what happened...now it's a hoax by MIT students using balloons. They all took out there chalk boards and metaphorical slide rules and reexamined the case. Guess what, the case ended up the way it started with only one thing different Officer Zamora was dead. I wonder if knew they were dissecting the case again and trying to make him look like an idiot.
This is what is happening all around. In the last few MUFON Journals they have taken on the Majority Fish star chart and who else... Lenny Zamora case but it doesn't stop there they went to Mexico to debunk a Jamie Maussan report. How is it MUFON doesn't know there are amazing UFO reports happening every day. I guess it's easier to research old cases than report on new ones.
The UFO researchers spend to much time doing this. There are UFOs let's go about finding out what they are. It's time for UFO researchers to start thinking outside the box themselves.
Happy New Year
Joe Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog
Great comments, Joe. I hear complaints daily in regards to MUFON from readers and witnesses. I really do hope they get their act together but I'm not going to hold my breath...Lon Strickler, Phantoms and Monsters
ReplyDeletei like what you suggested, about mufon ending the constant rehashing of older cases and instead investigating the more current. i was at a paranormal conference not too long ago in PA, and the main speaker from mufon had an eager audience, ready to hear the reports then emanating from western PA/greensburg area. instead of discussing the cases at hand, he presented a power point lecture of very old cases, nothing current or regional in the least, (with very poor sound quality i might add, almost inaudible at times) left the podium, then returned later to cut the presentation off before it was finished, and finally left the podium all together, leaving a very confused audience. it was like he was there to stop any and all meaningful discussion about what was then happening in that locale.
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Thanks Lon I agree. I hope in the future they try something new it's about time. I love the idea of MUFON but somehow it has lost it way. Are there people in MUFON intentionally trying to make the org. ineffective? If UFOs are as important as I suspect the possibility of American intelligence infiltrating at high levels of MUFON is very real. This seemed to have happen at the now defunct NICAP. Many suspect it was the CIA that gutted and destroyed that research organization.
ReplyDeleteIn all of this the Witness has been repeatedly disrespected. Whether it was the abductee volunteers with MUFON's "Abduction Monitoring Project" with their data still siting in a computer somewhere or the recent case I just presented; trying to prove witnesses wrong seems to be MUFON's first priority.
Joe Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog
Dear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteThis seems to be the priority at most UFO conferences. Unless you really intrigue people about what is going on now you are not going to get a future MUFON. There are no, (that I know of) visionaries at MUFON and unless we get some there will be 40 more years of the same old same old accept now MUFON's on the internet
Thanks and Happy New Year
Joe
UFOMM
Easily I agree but I think the post should prepare more info then it has.
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymou, I tried to get the reliant facts from the Journal. Some have said since the article to me... well maybe the UFO witness couldn't meet them till the end of the week. Two points made otherd on that. One he was intviewed the Sunday two days later and he thought they were MUFON. He seem very accepting of them without complaint. Second: after he called them on Saturday and reported being sick and burned by the beam they should have told him to get to a hospital or at least go there and talk to him and maybe stake out the house. Now this may sound silly to those who have never studied many UFO reports but believe me this does seem to happen. This doesn't happen often but it does seem to happen more often on close encounter reports especially where there might be evidence it happened.
ReplyDeleteBut you are right there could have been more.
thanks and Happy New Year
Joe
UFOMM
What was the case number and location of the sighting you mention? I'd like to read more about that.
ReplyDeleteDear Trained Observer,
ReplyDeleteThe Case #19255 and the area was Leasburg, North Carolina. I hope that helps.
Joe
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial blog
Couple of comments on prompt investigating by MUFON. First, I believe MUFON is an organization of mostly volunteers and is not well funded. To expect them to be able to coordinate the schedules of an all volunteer investigative team and get to a location within 48 may be asking too much - especially if you accept that *some* portion of reports coming into MUFON are potential hoaxes. I wonder how many times they've scrambled to get to a location to find it a prank. Complaining also seems unwarranted as we are all free to join the organization and try to change the things we dislike from the inside.
ReplyDeleteWith regards to the actual report - I'd like to know the age of the reporter's son - it immediately struck me as odd that, during this prolonged, extraordinary event he had the sense to go retrieve his camera but not any concern for his son sleeping in the yard? My first instinct would be to get my son up and inside the house asap.
Dear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteI don't know if you know that Robert Bigelow the multimillionaire is funding these "Star Teams" at MUFON they do have the resources to go anywhere within 24 hours...this according to what MUFON claims. For MUFON to refer this witness's case to the "Star Team" investagators means they must of felt it was an important case. I had thought the Star Team would be more responsive not less. When the witness called MUFON back and spoke about the burning and sickness...they should have sent him to a hospital and gone to meet him
As far this witness thinking not behaving rationally during this sighing I think that is par for the course. I know a sighting can take over your entire conscious mind, making you forget many things. My fried who is bright scientist and kept a camera with him all the time had an extended sighting and never thought of the camera. As far as danger in seeing a UFO that is just not what everyone feels when seeing a UFOs some are wow by it and don't want to miss a thing. This seems to be the disposition of this witness in this case.
Thank You For Your Interesting Comments
Happy New Year
Joe
UFOMM
Star Team (SIP) is funded by Robert Bigelow. The field personnel are paid. The entire point of SIP is to get to locations quick (I believe their PDF Overview states that investigators will be dispatched within 24 hours).
ReplyDeleteSo, Yeah. In that case, I think some criticism is warranted.
As a MUFON member myself, I like the organization -- enough to pay them money each year -- but that doesn't mean that I agree across the board with MUFON or find no flaws within. Also, my financial aid allows me at least some opinion as to how MUFON operates.
And Joseph beat me to it!
ReplyDeleteDear Interstellar Housewife,
ReplyDeleteI may be getting older but I still quick on my feet.
Thanks and have a healthy New Year.
Joe
UFOMM
Again a honesty a possessions post. Thank your achates
ReplyDeleteWhat we are still facing today in these STAR Team cases, especially concerning the speed in which we’re trying to conduct our investigations is the availability of both the witnesses and the MUFON Field Investigators. In the many cases I’ve worked on in the Washington DC metropolitan area, the witnesses took an average of two days to return my emails or phone calls and a couple more days to schedule an appointment for the on-site interviews. Also, keep in mind that most of us field agents have full time jobs and families that we have to consider during the planning of our investigation and the travel management. There are no station UFO alarms, sliding poles or a fleet of emergency MUFON vehicles at our disposal but we do have hard working folks who are trying their best to conduct rapid field investigations.
ReplyDeleteN. Gagnon – MUFON STAR FI
Dear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteI really want you to know I do respect the field investigators. I've know they are volunteers and have supported them in many post and on You Tube.
But the Star Team is suppose to be different. As for me I would be telling the witness we have new UFO investigation teams and we think it may be important to see you as soon as possible. This witness was on the phone Saturday explaining how he was burnt by the beam of light and how he was nauseous. It is not far fetch to think considering the closeness of the encounter and his possible physical evidence that he may be visited by intelligence or harassed. They could have been there and documented it. I thought the whole point of the Star Team was to be able to respond quickly.
They are being financed by Bigalow. Did anyone approach him about outfitting some vans?
Another important type case that should be investigated by the Star Teams are multiple sightings cases. many of them would not go to the Star Team, only the most credible.
There are other repeated sightings that need to be investigated. Ed Grimsley used Generation 3 Night Vision Goggles to see UFOs. I was there with 24 other people. I can tell you they would travel stop reverse and travel in groups. MUFON should be looking into this.
Thank You
Joe
UFOMM
A couple of things though about MUFON that should be notes. If the government does have a secret UFO Program going they'll take steps to neutralize revelation threats.
ReplyDeleteThis would naturally involve neutralizing anything that they considered threatening. It would include MIB, disinformation and trying to do in any organization that might get to the truth.
If you believe we engaged in illegalities over terror suspects then it isn't much of a leap of faith for action to protect the government's greatest secret. They may even engage in murder to keep it.
Joseph has the right idea by building an unshakable case for human mutilations by aliens. This can't be ignored and would eventually get action.
Dear Airforce1948,
ReplyDeleteThank you and you made me think of something else. These movements and how they pursue goals of disclosure and constantly shoot themselves in the foot. Is this by accident. A great deal of energy and money go into these movements doomed to failure. You can't accuse the government of hideous crimes and than expect them to open their files for you.
It is very easy to infiltrate these movements and do a great deal of damage. Maybe even start a moment as a drain on UFO community resources.
Of course this may not be the case, but if UFO secrecy is that important than I think we should not exclude counter measures by the government on all aspect of our community and the data we gather.
Thanks You
Joe
UFOMM
Hi
ReplyDeleteI am a MUFON Field investigator and a StarTeam Investigator. I would be more than happy to share any details about this case but I need a case number first.
Your comments about MUFON and the StarTeam i would have to disagree with to a degree and agree at the same time. I have no idea where people have the idea that MUFON is a service and that we owe everyone our time. Hate to tell you but we all have day jobs and with out those day jobs the "volunteers" would not be able to investigate for MUFON. We all have lives and it is very hard to cover all our cases in a timely basis when this is not our Job.
The StarTeam on the other hand was a pilot program to see it's effectiveness and it does have mixed reviews that i would agree with. The response time will still be limited because the volunteers are still professionals like police officers, engineers, consultants, etc and they still have obligations to their employers even though they were compensated for their time.
Blogger Interstellar Housewife is right about the fact that little to nothing was reported in the journal with any substance and that was not by design, just lack of organization at the top, which has since been corrected. Please write to the editor about this and demand chances to the journal. I would say that there are others that get the journal and want more metaphysical ideals written about and drum circles covered in there journal and less science. Well i think you know my response to that.
MUFON is only who volunteers to investigate and when most of them figure out its not like the movies and it is actual hard work they start neglecting their cases thus the aforementioned issue occurs.
Blogger Trained Observer, instead of complaining why don't you do something about it. Become an investigator and do what you feel is right. I have a hard enough time dealing with investigators that forget there is a handbook to follow and this frustration is also shared with the state directors and management. i am a State Section Director in a state that is well managed. There are other states that are not well managed... sometimes not at all and I too hope that gets fixed but the only way that will happen is so you the volunteers to step up and pass the exam and make a difference.
I assure you the problems and conspiracies you hear about and blog about are less interesting and more of a particle problem then the fantasy you read about.
I get frustrate and sometimes upset when people outright accuse MUFON of these outlandish accusations. I know I put 110% into what I do for MUFON and the public and sometimes it's never enough for some people. Probably the same people that complain about there food every time they go out to eat, stop eating there/stop reading or involving yourself with MUFON or join and make a difference. We need volunteers not arm chair quarterbacks telling us how they would do it. Become a MUFON field investigator and find out how it really is.
Morgan
MUFON State Section Director
Dear Morgan,
ReplyDeleteThe reason why MUFON is being criticize is their own fault. Where else are you going to criticize them; within MUFON? The comment part of the Journal is a mutual admiration society. When a case is debunk you rarely hear the other side. Your chief optics man can quickly show you a fake UFO but fails ever to show you a real one. You would think there is nothing out there and if that is true why do we have MUFON.
The new director of MUFON in the recent Journal made a pledge of more openness and respect for the base and respect for the witnesses. MUFON has been a closed system known more for spending most of it's time on proving UFO fakes. They have tried for the last 40 years to gain respectability with conventional science. They really have in many ufo reports cross their T and dotted their i scientifically but to absolutely no avail.
I understand volunteerism I have been involved in volunteer projects my whole life. It is very difficult to get and maintain volunteers. For many of the younger crowd it is hard putting the money together to even join MUFON. We had the first MUFON investigation training in the NY City area in years 3 years and that was the last one. It's been two years
Because of all of this I have myself been hesitant to criticize MUFON. But in the end it is not the volunteers I am criticizing I am criticizing the mindset of MUFON's leaders. The never ending rigid mindset of MUFON. I believe MUFON should say the hell to trying to prove what are UFO fakes and let's prove UFOs are real...because they are. This can lead to new announcements for the potential witnesses and to the world. MUFON could announced "A UFOs ARE Real Campaign" steering the investigators toward group sighting where you know at least something was in the sky. The MUFON Journal would only publish real UFO cases. The fakes and mistakes should be put on the MUFON web page each month with explanations.
But this won't happen because MUFON craves respectability in a club they are not allowed to join.
That's the reality of the scientific mindset. The only answer is overwhelming proof and you don't do that by debunking.
Unless their is some innovative thinking on the part of MUFON you will continue to have anger in the UFO community and members because most of us have seen UFOs and know they aren't fake.
The enemy of MUFON is not the base, the enemy of MUFON is antiquated thinking that cries out for a breath of fresh air.
Joe Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog
Non-Commercial Blog