“…and I’ll know my song well before I start singing” Bob Dylan
“British U.F.O. Shocker! Government Officials Were Telling the Truth” so shouted the NY Times article --which is the disclosure to the world-- according to British Intelligence officer, Nick Pope. Times article here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/26/world/europe/26london.html?_r=1&ref=europe&oref=slogin
The UK Ministry of Defense has now begun to release “all” the documents it has on UFOs… and just in case you doubt it, we have good old Nick Pope to tell us we should believe them, even though they lied about what Nick Pope, his predecessors, and his department were doing for years.
Pretty sad isn’t it, how the British government, along with its “ex” UFO X Files government employee can convince us, after so many years of presenting lies, that now once and for all, we have the truth on UFOs in the UK. Like a child who has lied so many times, like an American President who shouts Weapons of Mass Destruction in all the wrong places, citizens on both sides of the pond have a big, bad case of Untruth Fatigue.
And if we are still that stupid, maybe we deserve what we get.
We also have the history of good UFO witnesses who get laughed at and dismissed by Government, capital G, on both sides of the Atlantic, for half a century.
Even now our community must constantly defend UFO witnesses --even, or especially those with impeccable science, engineering and military backgrounds-- whose stories hold true for decades…and still they’re called frauds. Even by some of our own.
What they’re really saying, these Professional Deny Guys, is UFOs are nothing, that Roswell or anything like it never happened… for instance, that the officer on duty that night who put his “hand on the craft” at Rendlesham that soon would take off silently was…oh, you fill in the blank. Or let the Nick Popes and the Deny Guys fill it in for you. It’s what they do best.
It is amazing that Nick Pope was here in the UFO community to champion the truth of these reports, even before he saw them.
But according to what Nick told me at a recent conference, he doesn’t believe there were any secrets on UFOs his department didn’t know about. He explained to me the way the British Government keeps secrets is different then the American government…well isn’t that special.
He has been saying publicly, since it was announced, when this batch of reports are released, there will be no more UK secrets left, as far as UFOs go.
But there comes a point when the government needs a watch dog to watch government.
How many times have UK and USA military-intelligence officials claimed they were not interested, only for us to find they were lying? How many UFO researchers find documents in the UK which were claimed by Pope’s team just years or months ago, to be non-existent?
Nick might counter, as he did, unbelievably but oh so personably, on Coast2Coast Radio recently, chatting charmingly with host George Knapp, in a downright jolly tone, as he assured listeners this time, the UK secret keepers want to get rid of it all and simply not be bothered. There had been too many FOIA-style requests, after all.
But there is the one item everyone should remember, especially if you believe UFOs were taken seriously by both the UK and USA governments, as I do: both governments have had 60+ years to sanitize the secret ET presence. More than half a century to hide, obfuscate, spin, and deny the most important, yet arguably, one of the easiest secrets to keep.
If anyone out there doubts how easy it is to ignore even solid evidence about UFOs, just ask the witnesses who try to be heard.
They will never disclouse... they will never admit to the World UFO's are Craft from somewhere else, they will never admit to this:
"Have You Sean The Saucers"
As for Nick Pope, he’s STILL a front man, whether he knows it or not. The UK government is home to some of the richest UFO reports in the world. If something of national defense nature occurred, when it came to UFOs, do you really think Nick Pope would know it? He claims he would, because the government has been honest.
These are direct quotes from the Times article:
“A few carried humanoid life forms, or so it seemed. A few materialized courtesy of the observers’ possibly having had a drink too many, as in the case of an unidentified flying light cluster witnessed loitering in the sky by the patrons of a pub in Kent.”
“Whatever they were, these phenomena reported to Britain’s Ministry of Defense over the years and made public this month were almost certainly not actual alien aircraft piloted by actual alien beings.”
“The government has been telling us the truth,” declared David Clarke, a senior lecturer in journalism at Sheffield Hallam University, who has a side interest in U.F.O.’s. “There are a lot of weird things in the sky, and some of them we can’t explain, but there’s not a shred of evidence for a single alien visitation.”
I want to thank Nick Pope for proving once and for all it is all nonsense. Maybe I’ll just close down my blog because Pope says the truth is finally out there…But wait! Almost forgot: I’m from Brooklyn, and I’ve never bought a bridge yet. I don’t plan to start now.
As in the days of NICAP --which ended up debunked-- it wasn’t their enemies who destroyed them, it was their friends. So beware of the jolly, charming UK Ministry of Defense agents…especially when they claim they’re no longer hiding stuff, but then admit they might not have seen the really sensitive reports anyway. And especially, when they’re still on the government payroll. Nick Pope admitted on Coast2Coast that he had recommended the particular cases for release, and was still working on compiling those for release…over the next several years.
Joe Capp
UFO Media Matters
A Non-Commercial Blog
Friday, May 30, 2008
Friday, May 23, 2008
MUFON Investagation: Stephenville
"Momma's in the basement mixing up some medicine I'm on the pavement thinking about the govenment" Bob Dylan
MUFON’s Journal published results of the organization’s findings on the detailed reports from 70 witnesses in Texas in its April 2008 issue. Bottom line: the vast majority of witnesses who reported to MUFON were regular people just wanting to get answers about what they saw. Of the many people who reported UFOs, 2 were found to be hoaxers. Amazing! You’d think with all the screams out there on You-Tube and debunker land, it’d be closer to 70.
There were almost as many UFO reports from the two Texas counties --Stephenville and Dublin-- in January and February in 2008 as in all of 2007, according to the only ones who are doing any data collection…our own good UFO organizations.
Notably, MUFON’s investigation found there were two “official” daylight sightings reporting a “large craft gray in color”, silent and moving at a high rate of speed. Many Texas reports were similar to those logged around the world, featuring large sequential blinking lights in the sky. Also notable about the Stephenville sightings is how many witnesses came forward with old reports. I guess they felt it was finally safe to do so. This factor of multiple, belated UFO reports --indicating many pre-existing UFO sightings from the region-- is in itself important, no matter how you slice it.
MUFON was not able to get written reports from the local Police Officers, just verbal descriptions. So what did these trained observers report? Three officers who gave accounts describe a large “craft”, gray in color with red strobe lights on the top. The two officers who were outside at the time reported the craft they observed was silent.
Of this investigation, 18 reports are unknown, with five still under investigation. They still have 100 continuing UFO sighting reports around the Dublin area. So the Great Stephenville UFO Incident of 2008 is not over because the press calls it over.
Not all the UFOs were of the same type. I like this one:
“At 6:50 AM on January 11, James Beatty had a close encounter…he saw bright white lights coming over a hill, on the opposite side of the dam…hugging the shore line…it was delta shaped…black and gray in color…approached to about 30 to 50 yards away… no bigger then a 1978 Thunderbird…rear was rectangle with three large round openings in its side. No apparent thrust nor fire…extended canopy running three quarters of the way down the fuselage. It was metallic as well. The bottom looked like it had panel lines, it had three non-blinking white lights under it. It made no sound at all.”
Just a reminder to the “ well… it’s only lights in the sky” bunch, CRAFT is the term three trained observers used to describe their daylight sighting.
For all you secret government test flight fanatics: why would the government be flying a huge, top-secret craft, near paranoid George’s ranch, in daylight?
And finally for all of you “why in the world would aliens fly a trillion miles to go to Texas?” theoreticians: it’s called bases. Try to think ahead!
David Coram Video. Seen on “Alien Hunters” episode Diagrams In The Sky, this one’s still an enigma. MUFON Journal reported Dr. Bruce Maccabee and others wanted to find the light source but “time restraints” kept them from going to the original spot. So until that is done, I can’t go with Maccabee’s conclusion, that what was captured was just a camera effect combined with atmospheric conditions and an out-of-focus star. David Coram’s grandchild, who was first to point out this strange light source, was drawn to it and asked his grandfather about the “lightening” in the sky. He saw that movement with the unaided eye.
So a follow up is what they deserve. I think “Alien Hunter” should do a follow up on Texas, too. After all, Stephenville was the biggest UFO phenomenon of the year, and there are more than 100 UFO sightings still being reported there. Also, it’s important to not let it the case get too cold. While the Alien Hunter crew is there, they could also do a follow-up, confirming, if that be the case, Maccabee’s conclusion by simply filming a star from the same place David Coram’s grandson pointed out what he was seeing.
Since the US Government’s not exactly forthcoming these days, CITIZEN INITIATIVE AND CAN DO is still looking like the smartest and most civilized response. Wouldn’t it be great if some other optics and video experts would join MUFON and volunteer some time? So…what are you doing next weekend?
MUFON needs people of all expertise levels to help analyze the enormous quantities of video and photos now being submitted. I heard it from good sources that MUFON is backed up for two years on the normal processing of multimedia submitted for examination. MUFON is a great organization and doing a fine job. Those hundred Texas witness reports are still waiting to be gathered and investigated. MUFON needs more skilled volunteers. How many will step forward?
Alien Hunters complements citizen organization efforts.
I’m happy “Alien Hunters” is on the air. The show allows access to scientific equipment that is many times beyond the frugal expense accounts of many of our citizen organizations.
Of course presenting the proper evidence is crucial in getting to the answers. But actually being there in the midst of a flap and catching something with the best equipment would be highly desirable. The next best thing is sending investigators quickly to do a thorough job. “Alien Hunters” gets a B+; with some work it can be a great show and help the larger effort validating the witnesses to these phenomenon and according witnesses their much deserved…and overdue respect. I don’t like the idea of offering money to witnesses for UFO video. The practice opens up a can of worms and does nothing to help the credibility of sightings or witnesses.
I still wonder how many people never reported what they saw.
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
MUFON’s Journal published results of the organization’s findings on the detailed reports from 70 witnesses in Texas in its April 2008 issue. Bottom line: the vast majority of witnesses who reported to MUFON were regular people just wanting to get answers about what they saw. Of the many people who reported UFOs, 2 were found to be hoaxers. Amazing! You’d think with all the screams out there on You-Tube and debunker land, it’d be closer to 70.
There were almost as many UFO reports from the two Texas counties --Stephenville and Dublin-- in January and February in 2008 as in all of 2007, according to the only ones who are doing any data collection…our own good UFO organizations.
Notably, MUFON’s investigation found there were two “official” daylight sightings reporting a “large craft gray in color”, silent and moving at a high rate of speed. Many Texas reports were similar to those logged around the world, featuring large sequential blinking lights in the sky. Also notable about the Stephenville sightings is how many witnesses came forward with old reports. I guess they felt it was finally safe to do so. This factor of multiple, belated UFO reports --indicating many pre-existing UFO sightings from the region-- is in itself important, no matter how you slice it.
MUFON was not able to get written reports from the local Police Officers, just verbal descriptions. So what did these trained observers report? Three officers who gave accounts describe a large “craft”, gray in color with red strobe lights on the top. The two officers who were outside at the time reported the craft they observed was silent.
Of this investigation, 18 reports are unknown, with five still under investigation. They still have 100 continuing UFO sighting reports around the Dublin area. So the Great Stephenville UFO Incident of 2008 is not over because the press calls it over.
Not all the UFOs were of the same type. I like this one:
“At 6:50 AM on January 11, James Beatty had a close encounter…he saw bright white lights coming over a hill, on the opposite side of the dam…hugging the shore line…it was delta shaped…black and gray in color…approached to about 30 to 50 yards away… no bigger then a 1978 Thunderbird…rear was rectangle with three large round openings in its side. No apparent thrust nor fire…extended canopy running three quarters of the way down the fuselage. It was metallic as well. The bottom looked like it had panel lines, it had three non-blinking white lights under it. It made no sound at all.”
Just a reminder to the “ well… it’s only lights in the sky” bunch, CRAFT is the term three trained observers used to describe their daylight sighting.
For all you secret government test flight fanatics: why would the government be flying a huge, top-secret craft, near paranoid George’s ranch, in daylight?
And finally for all of you “why in the world would aliens fly a trillion miles to go to Texas?” theoreticians: it’s called bases. Try to think ahead!
David Coram Video. Seen on “Alien Hunters” episode Diagrams In The Sky, this one’s still an enigma. MUFON Journal reported Dr. Bruce Maccabee and others wanted to find the light source but “time restraints” kept them from going to the original spot. So until that is done, I can’t go with Maccabee’s conclusion, that what was captured was just a camera effect combined with atmospheric conditions and an out-of-focus star. David Coram’s grandchild, who was first to point out this strange light source, was drawn to it and asked his grandfather about the “lightening” in the sky. He saw that movement with the unaided eye.
DVD Agnelia Joiner (Fired Jounalist) "The Good The Bad & The Ugly About UFO Reporting. X Conference 2008"
So a follow up is what they deserve. I think “Alien Hunter” should do a follow up on Texas, too. After all, Stephenville was the biggest UFO phenomenon of the year, and there are more than 100 UFO sightings still being reported there. Also, it’s important to not let it the case get too cold. While the Alien Hunter crew is there, they could also do a follow-up, confirming, if that be the case, Maccabee’s conclusion by simply filming a star from the same place David Coram’s grandson pointed out what he was seeing.
Since the US Government’s not exactly forthcoming these days, CITIZEN INITIATIVE AND CAN DO is still looking like the smartest and most civilized response. Wouldn’t it be great if some other optics and video experts would join MUFON and volunteer some time? So…what are you doing next weekend?
MUFON needs people of all expertise levels to help analyze the enormous quantities of video and photos now being submitted. I heard it from good sources that MUFON is backed up for two years on the normal processing of multimedia submitted for examination. MUFON is a great organization and doing a fine job. Those hundred Texas witness reports are still waiting to be gathered and investigated. MUFON needs more skilled volunteers. How many will step forward?
Alien Hunters complements citizen organization efforts.
I’m happy “Alien Hunters” is on the air. The show allows access to scientific equipment that is many times beyond the frugal expense accounts of many of our citizen organizations.
Of course presenting the proper evidence is crucial in getting to the answers. But actually being there in the midst of a flap and catching something with the best equipment would be highly desirable. The next best thing is sending investigators quickly to do a thorough job. “Alien Hunters” gets a B+; with some work it can be a great show and help the larger effort validating the witnesses to these phenomenon and according witnesses their much deserved…and overdue respect. I don’t like the idea of offering money to witnesses for UFO video. The practice opens up a can of worms and does nothing to help the credibility of sightings or witnesses.
I still wonder how many people never reported what they saw.
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Thursday, May 15, 2008
Body Snatchers: Better as a Sci-Fi Film?
Nick Redfern, in Body Snatchers In The Desert [Paraview Pocket Books, 2005] sure jumps through a lot of hoops to explain Roswell away:
“A Horton Brothers Flying wing supported by huge Japanese-designed balloons and containing disabled or genetically damaged Japanese who were used as human guinea pigs to provide data on the effects of radiation for use in the NEPA Program.”
Though Redfern bases some of his latest on them, I’d never bet on anonymous whistle blowers. Especially when they’re from the government.
If I went through every scenario disclosed by every anonymous whistle blower in the UFO researcher community, I’d go nuts. But maybe that’s the mission.
I accept documents when conclusive; I accept the testimony of dying military witnesses when they have nothing to gain. Especially when they confess to their relatives, as so many loyal career military did in the Roswell case.
Some whistle blowers lie. One way I think they lie is by exaggerating a real story which loosely may apply. Sometimes, that’s professional misinformation. To do this, they get a researcher like Nick…who, as they say, strains the gnat and swallows the camel. As did many UFO researchers who swallowed the MOGUL story.
Interesting to note how this researcher faction, who discount the MOGUL theory --choose to believe in the witness testimony when it differs from MOGUL, but not when it differs from Redfern’s Body Snatchers version -- suddenly question those witnesses’ memory. There have been a dozen “what really happened at Roswell” books that dismiss all the original boots-on-the-ground witnesses. When you get whistle blowers called “the Colonel” and the “the black Widow’, as Redfern did, you can’t expect anything like serious ufology. But maybe you’d like to option a remake of a classic Sci-Fi film?
Let’s break it down, Redfern’s BS scenario.
First: do these descriptions from Roswell witnesses --who were there-- sound like a Horton Flying Wing made of wood or metals from the ‘40s?
Now let’s hear it from the some of the cojones-sufficient-to-ID-themselves witnesses, instead of “the Colonel” and “Black Widow”.
Start with Jesse Marcell Jr.’s The Roswell Legacy [Paperback, New Page Books, Sept. 2008] on the wonder of the material…
”As we examined the debris and carefully handled it my dad’s excitement was almost palpable… to his family he was a pretty laid back guy taking everything in his stride... [an] intelligence officer on a base with the country’s most guarded secrets… I saw another side to him…It was a mixture of excitement and confusion suffused with a sense of wonder that one just doesn’t see in many grown men.”
And move on to several others who were there.
Counter Intelligence Officer Sergeant Bill Ricket:
“The site itself was generally flat terrain…also evident were sixty or so pieces of what appeared to be very thin aluminum scattered about’…he picked up a piece about 4 inches by 10 inches and placed it over his knee to try and bend it. He couldn’t …Ricket [said]…‘I had never seen a piece of metal so thin that I couldn’t bend it…the more I look at it the more I couldn’t imagine what it was.’”
Major Edwin Easley’s Deathbed confession:
After keeping silent for 45 years, when presented with a book on the UFO crash at Roswell, Easley exclaimed to his granddaughter: “Oh the creatures!”
Sgt. Homer Rowlett, 603 Air Engineering Squadron, who days before passing, told his family:
“Sent as part of a clean-up detail…[he] had seen the memory material…tin foil that kept it’s shape…I saw three people they had large heads and one was alive.”
Rowell Military Hospital administrator Wayne’s Secretary broke down sobbing and told her parents:
[Worried by all the additional personnel running around the hospital her boss,“Wayne”, took her by the arm and had her accompany him to a room and observe a number of bodies on gurneys…]
“‘My God! They are children!’ Then she realized that its body size was the only childlike quality. Their skin was grayest brown…But the heads, the heads were too large…and those large eyes… those eyes that wouldn’t shut…she had heard of all of the talk of a crashed spaceship…‘Why did he[Wayne, her boss] have to involve me?’ she pleaded in the end.”
Lt. Govenor Joseph Montoya, on July 7th, 1947 while at the Roswell base, made this unintentionally close observation:
“We don’t know what it is. There was a flying saucer…[Describing bodies]…big eyes with big eyes shaped like tear drops…mouth small, like a knife cut across a piece of wood and they had large heads…bald heads…they had four long thin fingers on each hand.”
Staff Sergeant Earl Fulford, Top Secret clearance, 603rd Engineering:
[Forced to “volunteer for clean-up duties”, he was bused to any area which had “obviously been policed before”]
“… I only picked up seven small silvery pieces all day… the largest of which was 3 by 4 inches. I looked like thin light aluminum that flex slightly when I picked it up, but once in the palm of your hands you could wad it up into a small ball…and it would immediately form its shape in a second or two.”
Black Cat Mac Magruder, decorated F16 Fighter Pilot, lying on his deathbed, told his daughter:
[During class at the prestigious War College, he was taken to Wright Field and observed a live creature from the Roswell craft]
“…under five feet tall. Human like but with longer arms, large eyes, and an oversized hairless head…a small slit for a mouth, no nose just two small orifices…Ears two small orifices…came from another planet.”
I would never try to discredit Nick Redfern’s research; in fact, his work is usually top notch. But that doesn’t mean the latest Redfern theory makes sense--either in the general context of the larger Roswell story, or in the real-life details-- against the multiple deathbed and end-of-life confessions of loyal military and military support staff, who were there.
BBC Documentary on Roswell Witnesses:
Now that there are a majority who believe UFOs are not ET, it’s that much easier for professional debunkers to do away with the truth. Now debunkers feel safe to take any theory or opinion that comes down the pike to discredit the Roswell ET explanation. But Redfern’s latest scenario automatically puts many of the military professionals and other good, honest witnesses into what I’ll call the stupid category. And I haven’t even included in this discussion the people in the town who actually handled the material from the crafts…like rancher Brazel’s family home, tossed two years after the incident, by military looking for more material from the crafts.
These people have also been ignored or attacked as being too stupid to know a metal with bizarre properties they personally handled was different from the tinfoil on a cigarette package. For me, denigrating these witnesses is unacceptable.
I admit Mr. Redfern tries to cover some of the other witness testimony, like bodies and security measures. But you can’t cherrypick testimony to build a theory. This is what the debunkers do to prove we’re all nuts.
All quotes are from the taped testimony reported in the book A Witness to Roswell: Unmasking the 60-Year Cover-Up, by Schmitt and Cary [New Page Books, 2007].
Stanton Friedman’s take on the history, as well as other problems with explanations put forward by Nick Redfern in Body Snatchers is here:
http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/sfredfern1.html
Another famous Pilot at a UFO crash sight handles the same type of wreckage as Roswell 8 years later, described here:
http://pr-canada.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32776&Itemid=61
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog
“A Horton Brothers Flying wing supported by huge Japanese-designed balloons and containing disabled or genetically damaged Japanese who were used as human guinea pigs to provide data on the effects of radiation for use in the NEPA Program.”
Though Redfern bases some of his latest on them, I’d never bet on anonymous whistle blowers. Especially when they’re from the government.
If I went through every scenario disclosed by every anonymous whistle blower in the UFO researcher community, I’d go nuts. But maybe that’s the mission.
I accept documents when conclusive; I accept the testimony of dying military witnesses when they have nothing to gain. Especially when they confess to their relatives, as so many loyal career military did in the Roswell case.
Some whistle blowers lie. One way I think they lie is by exaggerating a real story which loosely may apply. Sometimes, that’s professional misinformation. To do this, they get a researcher like Nick…who, as they say, strains the gnat and swallows the camel. As did many UFO researchers who swallowed the MOGUL story.
Interesting to note how this researcher faction, who discount the MOGUL theory --choose to believe in the witness testimony when it differs from MOGUL, but not when it differs from Redfern’s Body Snatchers version -- suddenly question those witnesses’ memory. There have been a dozen “what really happened at Roswell” books that dismiss all the original boots-on-the-ground witnesses. When you get whistle blowers called “the Colonel” and the “the black Widow’, as Redfern did, you can’t expect anything like serious ufology. But maybe you’d like to option a remake of a classic Sci-Fi film?
Let’s break it down, Redfern’s BS scenario.
First: do these descriptions from Roswell witnesses --who were there-- sound like a Horton Flying Wing made of wood or metals from the ‘40s?
Now let’s hear it from the some of the cojones-sufficient-to-ID-themselves witnesses, instead of “the Colonel” and “Black Widow”.
Start with Jesse Marcell Jr.’s The Roswell Legacy [Paperback, New Page Books, Sept. 2008] on the wonder of the material…
”As we examined the debris and carefully handled it my dad’s excitement was almost palpable… to his family he was a pretty laid back guy taking everything in his stride... [an] intelligence officer on a base with the country’s most guarded secrets… I saw another side to him…It was a mixture of excitement and confusion suffused with a sense of wonder that one just doesn’t see in many grown men.”
And move on to several others who were there.
Counter Intelligence Officer Sergeant Bill Ricket:
“The site itself was generally flat terrain…also evident were sixty or so pieces of what appeared to be very thin aluminum scattered about’…he picked up a piece about 4 inches by 10 inches and placed it over his knee to try and bend it. He couldn’t …Ricket [said]…‘I had never seen a piece of metal so thin that I couldn’t bend it…the more I look at it the more I couldn’t imagine what it was.’”
Major Edwin Easley’s Deathbed confession:
After keeping silent for 45 years, when presented with a book on the UFO crash at Roswell, Easley exclaimed to his granddaughter: “Oh the creatures!”
Sgt. Homer Rowlett, 603 Air Engineering Squadron, who days before passing, told his family:
“Sent as part of a clean-up detail…[he] had seen the memory material…tin foil that kept it’s shape…I saw three people they had large heads and one was alive.”
Rowell Military Hospital administrator Wayne’s Secretary broke down sobbing and told her parents:
[Worried by all the additional personnel running around the hospital her boss,“Wayne”, took her by the arm and had her accompany him to a room and observe a number of bodies on gurneys…]
“‘My God! They are children!’ Then she realized that its body size was the only childlike quality. Their skin was grayest brown…But the heads, the heads were too large…and those large eyes… those eyes that wouldn’t shut…she had heard of all of the talk of a crashed spaceship…‘Why did he[Wayne, her boss] have to involve me?’ she pleaded in the end.”
Lt. Govenor Joseph Montoya, on July 7th, 1947 while at the Roswell base, made this unintentionally close observation:
“We don’t know what it is. There was a flying saucer…[Describing bodies]…big eyes with big eyes shaped like tear drops…mouth small, like a knife cut across a piece of wood and they had large heads…bald heads…they had four long thin fingers on each hand.”
Staff Sergeant Earl Fulford, Top Secret clearance, 603rd Engineering:
[Forced to “volunteer for clean-up duties”, he was bused to any area which had “obviously been policed before”]
“… I only picked up seven small silvery pieces all day… the largest of which was 3 by 4 inches. I looked like thin light aluminum that flex slightly when I picked it up, but once in the palm of your hands you could wad it up into a small ball…and it would immediately form its shape in a second or two.”
Black Cat Mac Magruder, decorated F16 Fighter Pilot, lying on his deathbed, told his daughter:
[During class at the prestigious War College, he was taken to Wright Field and observed a live creature from the Roswell craft]
“…under five feet tall. Human like but with longer arms, large eyes, and an oversized hairless head…a small slit for a mouth, no nose just two small orifices…Ears two small orifices…came from another planet.”
I would never try to discredit Nick Redfern’s research; in fact, his work is usually top notch. But that doesn’t mean the latest Redfern theory makes sense--either in the general context of the larger Roswell story, or in the real-life details-- against the multiple deathbed and end-of-life confessions of loyal military and military support staff, who were there.
BBC Documentary on Roswell Witnesses:
Now that there are a majority who believe UFOs are not ET, it’s that much easier for professional debunkers to do away with the truth. Now debunkers feel safe to take any theory or opinion that comes down the pike to discredit the Roswell ET explanation. But Redfern’s latest scenario automatically puts many of the military professionals and other good, honest witnesses into what I’ll call the stupid category. And I haven’t even included in this discussion the people in the town who actually handled the material from the crafts…like rancher Brazel’s family home, tossed two years after the incident, by military looking for more material from the crafts.
These people have also been ignored or attacked as being too stupid to know a metal with bizarre properties they personally handled was different from the tinfoil on a cigarette package. For me, denigrating these witnesses is unacceptable.
I admit Mr. Redfern tries to cover some of the other witness testimony, like bodies and security measures. But you can’t cherrypick testimony to build a theory. This is what the debunkers do to prove we’re all nuts.
All quotes are from the taped testimony reported in the book A Witness to Roswell: Unmasking the 60-Year Cover-Up, by Schmitt and Cary [New Page Books, 2007].
Stanton Friedman’s take on the history, as well as other problems with explanations put forward by Nick Redfern in Body Snatchers is here:
http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/sfredfern1.html
Another famous Pilot at a UFO crash sight handles the same type of wreckage as Roswell 8 years later, described here:
http://pr-canada.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32776&Itemid=61
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog
Thursday, May 8, 2008
Budd Hopkins: A Call To Honesty
Be honest with yourself. Are you a UFO skeptic, a true believer, or an enthusiast? Listen to the video and take a look at youself where do you fit?
Budd Hopkins is the researcher’s researcher. He’s not a perfect guy, not arrogant…just real. Hopkins even inspired a Pulitzer Prize winning Harvard professor to look at UFO abduction because of the quality of the hard data his research produced. When John Mack examined Budd Hopkins’s excellent research and then changed his views on UFO abductions, Hopkins showed us all --skeptics, true believers, and everybody else who bothers to pay attention-- the real power of good data.
So, thanks to the legacy of Budd Hopkins and Dr. John Mack, we can see how important it is to ask ourselves the toughest question of all: have UFO researchers and witnesses learned from past mistakes? Are the most educated and the most opinionated among us willing to look at ourselves and rethink what we mean by belief vs. truth and opinion vs. fact…and observation vs. conclusion?
We all claim to have an open mind, right? If you think yours is, give this clip a listen.
DVD: Budd Hopkins Skeptics & True believers. 2008 International UFO Congress:
Do you ever find yourself doing what I do, when something really bizarre, or outrageous surfaces in conversation or on your favorite website… simply checking in and asking yourself:
Could what I’m thinking here actually be what I’ve decided to believe
--rather what I’m likely to conclude from examining the available facts?
How do I decide what constitutes independent, verifiable data?
Who has the authority to establish --or demolish-- the testimony of direct witnesses?
Our beliefs are important, they define us. But what happens when we make it impossible for truth to even sneak up on us, because we’ve forgotten the art of being absolutely honest with ourselves --honest and aware enough to call a belief a belief, and not presume it’s an absolute truth?
Should we be surprised that the casual type of self-dishonesty we indulge in is used very effectively by others, and not in a good way? I suspect it’s used across the board --by us and against us-- when it comes to thinking about, researching, and even experiencing UFOs.
So I’d like to move just for a minute from belief about verifiable facts, to spirituality. The spiritual life without honest self-examination is what I call “getting high on God”, and I define that as a place where you may feel, safe and accepted, but it’s also a place were you can lose yourself. Some UFO witnesses and experiences look to us for help and the truth. Shouldn’t we provide that help based on the truth of what we know, and separate what we know from what we believe?
Most crucially, we must continue to ask this: Do we really know the entities of the abduction phenomenon are good?
The intelligence on the other side of this knows its own reasons.
We don’t have any real way of knowing if they, the representatives of that intelligence, lie and manipulate…we can only believe and hope they have good reasons for being here.
But that’s our hope, our belief. Not ground truth. Not intelligent conclusions based on decades of facts.
In an article in Fate Magazine [May 2008] about a famous African Healer who claims he was abducted, “Vusamazulu Credo Mutwa and the Alien Agenda” author Louis Proud reports:
"Credo is recognized by many as one of the most distinguished African traditional healers of the 20th century…He is, in fact, the spiritual leader of the sanusis and sangomas of South Africa. …Credo claims to have been abducted by beings his people, the Zulus, call the mantindane. Even more surprising is the fact that these creatures look and act exactly like what we in the West call the “grays”…The late John E. Mack was among one of the first UFO researchers in the West to interview Credo…an expert [John Mack, Ed.] on the alien abduction phenomenon, found difficult not to take seriously. "
Listen to what Zulu elder Credo Mutwa claims about the grays:
“Some of these beings, says Credo, have covertly and profoundly influenced all human cultures and civilizations for millennia…As regards different types of alien beings, the mantindane are apparently the most important to Africans, who fear them greatly. The word mantindane, by the way, translates as “the tormentors.” Credo described these entities to Mack as troublesome and “parasitic,” claiming that they “instill superstition, sow discord, and may even cause disease.”
This Zulu spiritual leader describes ET behavior in a way that fits my conclusion that they are very intelligent and manipulate the human race from the shadows and, through displays and mythology. Others, of course, say ETs are wonderful and good.
Fate:
http://www.fatemag.com/issues/2000s/2008-05article2.html
In the final analysis we don’t know the real agenda behind the UFO abduction phenomenon, or behind any of the many other UFO phenomenon.
Not knowing--and admitting we don’t know-- can be a healthy position, especially when it’s is the truth.
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog
Budd Hopkins is the researcher’s researcher. He’s not a perfect guy, not arrogant…just real. Hopkins even inspired a Pulitzer Prize winning Harvard professor to look at UFO abduction because of the quality of the hard data his research produced. When John Mack examined Budd Hopkins’s excellent research and then changed his views on UFO abductions, Hopkins showed us all --skeptics, true believers, and everybody else who bothers to pay attention-- the real power of good data.
So, thanks to the legacy of Budd Hopkins and Dr. John Mack, we can see how important it is to ask ourselves the toughest question of all: have UFO researchers and witnesses learned from past mistakes? Are the most educated and the most opinionated among us willing to look at ourselves and rethink what we mean by belief vs. truth and opinion vs. fact…and observation vs. conclusion?
We all claim to have an open mind, right? If you think yours is, give this clip a listen.
DVD: Budd Hopkins Skeptics & True believers. 2008 International UFO Congress:
Do you ever find yourself doing what I do, when something really bizarre, or outrageous surfaces in conversation or on your favorite website… simply checking in and asking yourself:
Could what I’m thinking here actually be what I’ve decided to believe
--rather what I’m likely to conclude from examining the available facts?
How do I decide what constitutes independent, verifiable data?
Who has the authority to establish --or demolish-- the testimony of direct witnesses?
Our beliefs are important, they define us. But what happens when we make it impossible for truth to even sneak up on us, because we’ve forgotten the art of being absolutely honest with ourselves --honest and aware enough to call a belief a belief, and not presume it’s an absolute truth?
Should we be surprised that the casual type of self-dishonesty we indulge in is used very effectively by others, and not in a good way? I suspect it’s used across the board --by us and against us-- when it comes to thinking about, researching, and even experiencing UFOs.
So I’d like to move just for a minute from belief about verifiable facts, to spirituality. The spiritual life without honest self-examination is what I call “getting high on God”, and I define that as a place where you may feel, safe and accepted, but it’s also a place were you can lose yourself. Some UFO witnesses and experiences look to us for help and the truth. Shouldn’t we provide that help based on the truth of what we know, and separate what we know from what we believe?
Most crucially, we must continue to ask this: Do we really know the entities of the abduction phenomenon are good?
The intelligence on the other side of this knows its own reasons.
We don’t have any real way of knowing if they, the representatives of that intelligence, lie and manipulate…we can only believe and hope they have good reasons for being here.
But that’s our hope, our belief. Not ground truth. Not intelligent conclusions based on decades of facts.
In an article in Fate Magazine [May 2008] about a famous African Healer who claims he was abducted, “Vusamazulu Credo Mutwa and the Alien Agenda” author Louis Proud reports:
"Credo is recognized by many as one of the most distinguished African traditional healers of the 20th century…He is, in fact, the spiritual leader of the sanusis and sangomas of South Africa. …Credo claims to have been abducted by beings his people, the Zulus, call the mantindane. Even more surprising is the fact that these creatures look and act exactly like what we in the West call the “grays”…The late John E. Mack was among one of the first UFO researchers in the West to interview Credo…an expert [John Mack, Ed.] on the alien abduction phenomenon, found difficult not to take seriously. "
Listen to what Zulu elder Credo Mutwa claims about the grays:
“Some of these beings, says Credo, have covertly and profoundly influenced all human cultures and civilizations for millennia…As regards different types of alien beings, the mantindane are apparently the most important to Africans, who fear them greatly. The word mantindane, by the way, translates as “the tormentors.” Credo described these entities to Mack as troublesome and “parasitic,” claiming that they “instill superstition, sow discord, and may even cause disease.”
This Zulu spiritual leader describes ET behavior in a way that fits my conclusion that they are very intelligent and manipulate the human race from the shadows and, through displays and mythology. Others, of course, say ETs are wonderful and good.
Fate:
http://www.fatemag.com/issues/2000s/2008-05article2.html
In the final analysis we don’t know the real agenda behind the UFO abduction phenomenon, or behind any of the many other UFO phenomenon.
Not knowing--and admitting we don’t know-- can be a healthy position, especially when it’s is the truth.
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog
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