Or as I like to call it DDSLBy Joseph Capp
Everyone now is on someones list so I decided the debunkers deserve a list. Here’s my TOP 3 UFO "DEBUNKERS DUMB STATEMENTS LIST", all additions welcomed.
Number One:Jumping James Oberg
On the observation by twelve airline employees witnessing an “object’ and or a “craft” hovering 1500 feet over C17, at O’Hare Airport, which then travel upwards so fast that it made a hole in the low hanging clouds showing the clear blue of the sky through it:
“NSTB investigators say that the worst observers of an aviation accident are aviation personnel. It’s because pilots will usually want to understand what’s happened, and in their initial perceptions and the latter retellings will stress the facts that support their interpretations.” [Emphasis here is mine.]
Aviation accident?Excuse Me! So a pilot would view the sighting of a UFO with the same personal impact as a plane crash- I don’t think so – dumb. Its amazing, if Jumping Jim is right, how do pilots ever guide a plane to an emergency safe landing considering they’re concentrating on “what happened” instead of flying the plane. Any pilots out there disagree with Jimbo.
Did the UFO crash at O’Hare? I must have missed that story. Looks like Jumping James Oberg is, once again, stressing “unfacts” that support…Launching another carefully architected Oberg disinfo opportunity.
Number TwoNo Class Phillip KlassThere’s the famous Lonnie Zamora case --in which a respected small-town, country Police Officer broke off his chase of a speeding car to investigate what he thought was a downed plane-- and came across a craft with small occupants.
The late, prolific, Phil Klass, in UFOs Explained, makes his case that the whole Zamora case was cooked up by the mayor to give tiny Socorro, New Mexico some publicity. Not bloody likely…the impact on the life of the reporting cop was extremely negative for years, and no one built a theme park at Socorro.
But my next one needs a setup.
The rain pelted the small window and lightning was streaking white across the dirty glass. Three men sat around a table. The tallest man stood up and stretched, bringing his 6-foot frame to its full height. He started to pace as he spoke.
“We need to bring the attention back to Roswell. Some type of new disclosure. Something to wow ‘em. Yes that is it! Something that will bring the publishers pounding at our door and sign us on for the really big money: THE COLLEGE LECTURE CIRCUIT! We’ve got to come up with something to link it all together, the Roswell tale and an X factor…something that will blow everything else out of the water.”
The tall man walked over to the bar and, reaching behind the top shelf where the bourbon was, pulled out a glass. Poured himself a double.
A portly, heavy-browed guy sat at the table, giving his friend’s Big Idea some thought. He stroked his beard. A hint of gray in beard and what was left of his hair, caught by the overhead neon lighting, gave him an eerie glow. “Yes!” The dramatic arch of his thick brows got even stranger as he became excited. “Hell, a new X-factor, that’s it! Just what we need to bring our old Roswell book sales up! Resurrect the whole book catalog for all of us. I’ll…I’ll even be able to buy that house in Canada.” The portly man shook with excitement, pronouncing ‘Canada’ with religious fervor.
The third man sat in silence, staring straight ahead. Suddenly, he slammed his hand down hard on the table.
“I have it!” he shouted. “Why don’t we claim we have top secret documents? Documents that reveal the government appointed a group --we can work out a cover on that later-- to study the work in our fake Roswell crash. We could easily con one of the organizations like MUFON for research money. And you guys can do the research we need on faking the documents. On their dime!”
Laughter rang out.
The second man in the meeting put ice in his glass. While stirring, he said, “The problem is that if we use MUFON, they will want to see the documents.”
The portly man got up and walked over to the bar. He pulls a glass out. “With an offer of quality scotch, I may be able to fix it.” He smiled as the second man pulled a special bottle he had hidden in an overhead cabinet. “MUFON, no problem: they will go along with me.” The portly man’s smile broadened.
“After all, I’ve been one of their brighter members. I can do this with just a small token--like the first page. We can easily fake that.”
The tall man turned. “We forgot one thing. How are we going to pull this off with the super debunker, Karl Korff?”
How many times have we heard these debunkers laugh in front of the TV cameras and use the term “conspiracy theorist” any time a UFO researcher mentions the withholding of evidence by any agency? This brand of debunker laughs outright or smirks and throws a couple of those silly people looks at the camera.
So guess who’s at the top of the list of my list?
Number Three:Goes to Konspiracy Kal Korff who dreamt up this bad conspiracy theory without a bit of Proof:
Listen, Kal, if you can’t get it right about the date stamp on classified documents or the way they list names or whether they use their rank properly – and this is your expertise – how are you gonna get it right on all this cloak and dagger stuff?
Most UFO researchers will tell you honestly privately, that there is so much competition in the UFO community, if this conspiracy was true someone would have leaked it or wrote a book about it.
The Three Men are William Moore, Stanton Friedman, Jamie Shandera, The documents were the Majestic 12 documents.
Three researchers together- that definitely means there is a conspiracy - calling Joseph McCarthy.
The Dramatization of Kal Korff conspiracy theory and Korff’s mistakes on the way government and military documents are formatted were by interview on:
“UFO Secret MJ-12 - Do You Believe In Majic?” - Two Disk Set
I loved the first DVD. In the second DVD the camera stayed on Stanton’s face rather than on the presentation - this was recorded at another conference and I guess it was a no brainer the second DVD couldn’t be sold alone. It was sold in a set and priced the same as the singles and the first DVD was well worth the price.Such is the world we live in.
Anytime I feel down, I watch the Marx Brothers.
Joseph CappUFO Media Matters