Sunday, January 10, 2010

Will Success Spoil MUFON?

While reading my MUFON Journal for December 2009 I came across an article written by Mark Easter, the Nevada MUFON State Director, entitled, "The Man Who Says UFO." It was written in two parts and the first part in the above dated journal described how Mark was contacted by the History Channel about a new program, "Mystery Quest". The producer proceeded to tell him they wanted to do a show on searching for crashed UFOs near Area 51; that's right they wanted to search near Area 51 for ET crash material.

Mark is a Director Of MUFON in Nevada with a day job in broadcast TV. He was savvy enough to know that these shows value ratings above all. Mark, against his own inner advice, decided to take the show on anyway because the program was going to hire a university lab to the do testing on whatever they found. This meant MUFON wouldn't have to pay for the testing themselves. I thought, when I read this, what testing? Do they expect to find a crashed UFO at Area 51? Mark described in the article how he tried to talk the producer out of searching near Area 51 because there had been no reports of crashed UFOs in that area.

As silly as the show's premise was, it was the second part of the article "The Man Who Says UFO" Part II in the January, 2010 MUFON journal that really disturbed me. Mark wrote how he asked the producer, "as a representative of MUFON what do you expect from me?" Now this may sound like a benign statement but it is a very powerful one. Mark Easter was not there as an actor; he was there as a MUFON representative.

The producer, the crew, area 51 advisors and Mark all met at the Rachel, Nevada Little Ale 'Inn. As they were talking about the day's shoot. up pulls a man named Peter Marlin with a jeep full of wreckage. "It's the remains of a nose cone to a test rocket from Area 51 launched in 1967". Not only did Peter have the debris but he also had"1000 pages of tech information on the rocket". This debris was not mysterious at all. They all knew what it was, when it was launch and by whom. The producer had hired Peter as part of the show. But, here is where it got really tricky. They all go out to the crash site where the wreckage was found and:
"When we arrived at the destination the producer proceeded to explain how the sequence would be shot. We had to pull the huge pile of debris out of Peter's Jeep…and plant it in the desert so on camera we could drive up and discover it. In the shot Peter and Mark are kneeling next to the debris and pulling pieces out talking about them as they pretend they are looking at it for the first time."

The producer instructed Mark to interject certain words about the debris into the dialogue like "alien", "extraterrestrial" and the word "UFO". They all then proceeded to go searching the site for other debris. When they didn't find any, the producer again came up with a brilliant, if less than ethical, solution. They would plant a piece of the debris and act as if they just found it. This farce even went to the extent where the show sent the material out to a Rutgers' scientist for analysis.

As I continued to read the article Mark apologized for "misleading the public" and explained that was why he was writing the story. There is a problem with just his apology. Mark was a representative of MUFON when he did this show. MUFON is supposed to be the scientific and ethical leader in UFO research. Mark apologized in the MUFON journal but how about the hundreds of thousands of people who watched that program? There are people out there interested in the UFO subject who are smart enough to see that debris for what it was. There are pilots, engineers, and others who may have been watching for the first time. This same public watched as a MUFON Director acted as though he was bewildered by material which was so obviously not ET that Mark underlined this point in the article: "What is funny is I am handling asbestos shielding and stiff hydraulic tubing in my hands while she asks me to act like I don't know it was man made." Mark doesn't seem to realize that the real joke is on MUFON.

I am left bewildered by this article. I am bewildered by why Mark didn't just say "Hey, I am a representative of MUFON; I can't fake that." He said in the beginning of the article he wasn't that interested in doing the show and that he was media savvy. He stated that he would be the MUFON representative, so why didn't he set up some ethical guidelines? What also bothered me was the matter of fact way he proceeded to do what the producer wanted. There was not one statement in the article where Mark objected to the hoaxing. In my book, that is basically what it was.

This has raised some questions about MUFON, such as: Was this an isolated event? Doesn't MUFON have strict ethical rules on media program participation by it's representatives? Do certain people up in the higher echelons of MUFON allow the bending of rules to get MUFON's name out there in the public? Does the reader think what he did was harmless? Do you believe an apology in the MUFON journal is enough? I believe Mark is a good person who got caught up with the pressures of doing a show despite the claim of being in the know. Maybe MUFON should monitor their directors a little more closely. Maybe James Carrion should spend more time working on the ethics on MUFON directors in the media instead of all of the time he puts in trying to prove Roswell was a secret American weapon.
Some say MUFON is sacrosanct and shouldn't be criticized. I believe healthy public discourse on MUFON will help the organization. If someone like me, just a member of MUFON for a few years, can observe these flaws there must be those inside MUFON that have witnessed much more, and maybe by reading this, they will find the need to speak up also. I believe MUFON should not be abandoned in any way, there are far too many great volunteer field investigators and directors that do what needs to done. What I think MUFON needs is a man of vision who will also lead MUFON… to do what it needs to be done.

In the end the Mark the MUFON Director became part of the problem. The honest and brave UFO witnesses who have lost their careers and who struggle every day to be believed, just don't deserve that.

UFO MM Presents "Dead ET Walking"




Joseph Capp


51 comments:

  1. Joseph,

    I too read this article and had the same reaction as you. At first I had to re-skim the content to make sure I read what I thought I had read.

    While I'm glad MUFON didn't 86 the article (since it does reflect badly on MUFON as a whole even if individual chapters are... well, individual) the apology, while appreciated in some capacity, the whole thing was incredibly disappointing.

    I was very upset that the state director of any MUFON chapter would take part in what is essentially a hoax - something that all of us into serious research and study have strong feelings about. One of the biggest problems with the credibility of UFOlogy is due to the number of known hoaxes out there.

    I'm not mad at MUFON as a whole - though this particular item does reflect badly on the organization, I'm mad that someone supposedly involved to help bring credibility to UFO research, would allow themselves to do just the opposite.

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  2. Dear Interstellar Housewife,
    Thanks for the comments at least I know now I am not going crazy.

    Joe
    UFOMM

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  3. With all due respect to those who are for real at MUFON, this is just too much to ignore.

    A harsh term for this type of behavior would be traitor, but I don't want to be harsh, yet what can be said to brush it aside? Its about as blatant as it can get! Was there some type of mind control going on there, or something? Was he bought through some secret, future promise?

    It's like:

    A) "ok...the boat is sinking, and we want you to go and make sure the plug is securely in the drain"

    B) "oh...you mean...this Plug?"

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  4. Dear Bob,
    I agree you can't fix a problem if you won't admit you have one. MUFON needs to take a long hard look honest look at itself. But I'm afraid that is not going to be done.

    Thanks
    Joe
    UFOMM

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  5. Wow, this makes me SO angry. MUFON is supposed to represent the sane Ufo community. People that can be equals to SETI. Thank you for making us look like a bunch of quacks MUFON.

    And a sincere thank you to Joseph for trying to keep people on the up and up.

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  6. Thank you Keven that is why I chose to be non-commercial.

    Joe
    UFOMM

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  7. Joe,

    Thanks for this article - your feelings are dead on. Frankly, I don't know if I'd WANT to be in an organization that FAKES UFO events. I can think of NO reason for this to have occurred. Sickening.

    Rick Phillips

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  8. Incredible. At least he came clean about it. Ufology is such a mess.

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  9. Dear M4ever,

    One person doesn't make an organization. I have never heard of this before that is why it took me by surprise. MUFON has been around for 40 plus years without it many great UFO cases would have gone investigated. Ted Phillips is part of MUFON and investigated 5000 UFO landing cases.There are great people in MUFON including also Stanton Friedman.
    Thanks
    Joe
    UFOMM

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  10. The problem I have with MUFON is that they do next to nothing in terms of activism. They are a black hole for most UFO reports. I've heard of very little progress as of late despite funding from Billionaire Robert Bigelow. MUFON does very little to educate the public aside from publish a journal that nobody but members read, and hold conferences that nobody in the mainstream hears about or attends.

    We need another NICAP or APRO. An organization that is outspoken and credible. An organization that can hold the governments feet to the fire. MUFON is not, and never has been that organization.

    Now that they're on national television helping to hoax a "UFO crash" it's just sickening. The last straw for me.

    It's time for a new UFO organization to come into being.

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  11. Joe,

    You make very good points in your blog and we'll have to wait to see what happens.

    I think you're onto to something with your forensic human mutilation work and if you do it right and get more cases you might build an unshakable case. My best,

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  12. Wow...Joe, I'm going to reference your post. If you remember, Mark Easter was the MUFON rep who contacted me a few weeks ago in reference to my MUFON complaint. Interesting...thanks.

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  13. I'd just like to echo Joseph's comment here for a moment-

    It's easy to automatically become angry at or blame MUFON for this situation, but you really can't blame the organization as a whole, no more than the whole government can be blamed for the opinions of one senator or congressman.

    I think that MUFON needs to be streamlined a bit more. I'm not sure what needs to be done to tighten up the loose bits, but the overall goal of the organization is admirable.

    I am hoping that MUFON is just going through some growing pains as of late and will sort out it's rusty parts sooner rather than later.

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  14. I want to thank everyone for their comments. I can understand the anger. MUFON does need to change to a more pro-active investigative org. Just recently I read a blog on people reporting long term multiple sightings of UFOs to MUFON One was from a Ranch where the people see UFOs regularly. He posted other examples of people reporting these ongoing sightings. Why aren't these places visited and maybe stakeout. The Star Team should go and do this. Outfit a camper with equipment and have a team able to go anywhere and bring their house with them. Filter the data till you come up with prime reports and go and try and monitor a UFO (with the right although expensive instruments) MUFON may find evidence that is very hard to dispute. If enough people inside MUFON agree maybe something will happen. James Carrion was kind enough to be interviewed by me and at the time I thought he had some good ideas. I believe he should step down and MUFON should get someone who has some vision. It's time for a house cleaning.
    You may have people trying to destroy this good organization do we want to let them win. MUFON could be the UFO reserach organazation for the 21st century all it takes is some courage and vision.
    Joe
    UFOMM

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  15. Any truth to this?
    http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/eceti/message/4829

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  16. Dear Trained Observer,
    The person at the link you gave made statement as facts which can't be verified. James said he resigned for family and for other reasons. There is no proof that James was forced out. I don't like when people who don't like a person spread unfounded rumors about that someone. That's a debunking tactic and not the way to go.

    Joe Capp
    UFOMM

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  17. I completely agree, Joe.

    We can speculate all we want on what happened. if all of the complaints and the Romanek situation were the cause of his -- re-assignment. He is not out of MUFON, he is simply out of the Int'l Director position.

    I think it best to just assume that what James said *are* the actual reasons, unless somethings else comes out. There is enough conspiracy theory in UFOlogy as it is - why make more for something relatively unimportant? He is gone and some one else is taking over. Lets hope the new Director guides the organization in a way that pleases the member-base more.

    I didn't have the problem with James that many did. Sure, I didn't like how he went about some things, but I don't think he was a bad person and I think he helped give MUFON a more modern & professional image.

    The big thing now is to call someone a 'Disinfo Agent' if they have an opinion outside the norm of the UFO community -- and that is utter bullshit. Are their actual Disinfo people in UFOlogy? Maybe. But we don't need to turn this into a game of Clue where everyone is suspect.

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  18. Dear Interstellar Housewife,
    Last time I looked it was still America. Although of late I'm not so sure. Some people are doing the same thing in the UFO community as the debunkers did to some of them...judge by innuendo.
    Thanks
    Joe
    UFOMM

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  19. Speaking of MUFON, I spoke with a friend of mine who is a MUFON state director of another state and they had not heard of the Mark Easter thingy-ma-bob. So I had to tell them the premise all over again and the response I got was somewhere near shock.

    I was a little surprised they hadn't known. So I guess we at least know they aren't Borg. :p

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  20. I am glad we are getting a new director for MUFON. I am the Section State Direstor for MUFON in New Jersey and I have tried to contact James Carrion, about important issues, many times but no response. For an organization to expand and get better with age, MUFON seems to be heading the other way. MUFON may have the largest data base of UFO pictures in the world but no one would know it. Why won't they share it with the world. Its backwards thinking and I see why so many great investigators have lost interest. Lets hope for the best and give MUFON another change with our new director. We will see....Ken Pfeifer MUFON N.J. http://www.worldufophotos.org

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  21. Dear Ken
    You' re right on the money. The MUFON database has no data mining. I wanted to search UFO cases on multiple sightings but the search criteria was so limited. I ended up having to look through hundreds of cases. James did something that really set the tone of his character for me. When I had written my first post critical of MUFON, it was on the MUFON's last Conference. Some how by accident I change my main email to an old email address in the blog settings. I was rushing away that week to visit a friend and go to the MUFON Conference. When I finally was made aware of what happened i read Carrion's comment to me. He insinuated I disabled my email intentionally because I didn't want to read the many comments from MUFON people criticizing the subject of my post. I thought this guy is really paranoid. When I finally read and replied to all the comments on the post, most of the people who responded from MUFON agreed with me.
    I don't know the new person Cliff, who is suppose to take over. I just hope he has a vision of the future of MUFON and how the organization can be the most effective in the future, not only on investigations, but as a great database conduit for UFO case reports and MUFON's conclusions.

    Thanks Ken and I hope someone listens now.

    Joe
    UFOMM

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  22. I was a member, SSD, and field investigator for MUFON for 17 years and resigned last year. I would like to share some of the reasons why I left:
    1. Poor communications. Poor use of new communication technologies.
    2. Brainstorming meetings that had no followup. Many great ideas put on the table but I guess no funding. What a waste of time and effort!
    3. MUFON created stories/fodder for their MUFON Journal for many years. It's all about keeping memberships up and everyone entertained!
    4. Poor Investigator training. In my opinion, there are very few MUFON investigators that are properly trained. I have witnessed many investigations that were botched.
    5. Like many organizations, politics is always a problem.
    6. No recognition for volunteers that work their tail off. Awards always seemed to be passed among the leaders and/or administrators for doing absolutely nothing.
    7. Symposiums that are overpriced and provide very little in new information.
    8. Membership dues that continue to increase but provide very little; a worthless membership card and a fodder filled black and white MUFON Journal each month.
    9. No financial accountability. Funds and donations often disappear without questioning.
    10. There are too many top-level people in MUFON that use it's resources and name for their own self-gain (Book deals, tv shows, etc.) Of course they will probably want to rethink that since MUFON has lost its credibility lately.
    It really is time to move on. MUFON has outlived it's usefulness. Maybe a new simplified, free to the public, organization should be formed to investigate UFOs. I really don't know the answer, but as you can see from my 17 yrs worth of experiences at MUFON, it does not warrant an more time, money, or effort!

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  23. Dear X MUFON,
    Your story is what I have heard off the record for a few years now. I don't think we need a new organization just a real overhaul. I agree fully we should have full accountability to the members. MUFON should release updates from different MUFON state meetings and what they are planing for the future. They need to finish what they start. It shouldn't be that we hear about MUFON project in the Journal and no follow-up on what happened. The Ambient Monitoring Project comes to mind.
    There are research avenues that they have not followed because I guess they believe it isn't really happening like multiple continuing sightings by certain witnesses. It's not enough to ride in Bungalow's private jet and feel important. I think MUFON would be better to have some tech outfitted vans from Bigelow.
    Thank you, we need you more people like you inside MUFON and willing to come out and tell the truth so MUFON can and will be fixed. MUFON is not going to find the truth if they lie to themselves.
    Have a great day
    Joe
    UFO Media Matters

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  24. What we need in the USA is an effort like the Hessdalen Project in Norway. They seem to be doing things right. They have cooperation from universities and academics from several countries.

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  25. Dear Trained Observer,
    MUFON does have Ted Phyllis who is studying the Marley lights. But you are right a long term examination of some of these spots were UFO craft appear might yield some good results. Recently I read a MUFON sighting where an owner of a ranch was having continuing sightings on their property. This would be a good place to try and video and investigate what is happening. I am not talking about just going a talking to the witnesses what I am talking about is staying on the property and catching some of the phenomenon with the right instrumentation.
    You have to take a chance and with the new Star Team they could do it...maybe now that Carrion is gone the new director will have more of a vision for the future of MUFON.
    Thank You
    Joe
    UFOMM

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  26. It is very discouraging to learn that another documentary will air that is tailored to disinform viewers about the "discovery" of possible UFO materials. What a sham! There was a documentary I watched on National Geographic Channel some years back that focused on UFOs, and at one point in the show it stated as fact that what witnesses really saw in 1947 Roswell were not alien bodies but anthropomorphic dummies dropped from high altitudes by the Air Force during the 1950s. When the assertion was made, the documentary featured footage of a dummy being dropped high above the Earth. It really angered me because the Air Force theory about alien bodies is more absurd than the claims of actual alien bodies, but this particular documentary made the dummy assertion and continued on about its business. Now, we have another documentary on the horizon that will feature a MUFON rep playing along with a bogus discovery of wreckage that might be extraterrestrial in origin. The implications of this will be devastating to the field. Millions of people will watch this show and many will walk away believing it is real. There needs to be a revolution in the UFO research field. MUFON is not doing enough to finally blow the lid off the cover up, and now we learn one of its reps has played part in a fictional film calling itself a documentary. It is absolutely ridiculous. The MUFON rep should have walked away from the production immediately upon learning that the film crew planned to pretend to find crashed debris. How can anybody take MUFON seriously after something like this? I agree with other posters - a new organization needs to be formed that seriously investigates the UFO/extraterrestrial phenomenon. A new approach needs to be implemented. The "after the fact" approach has become antiquated. A proactive, rather than reactive, approach is required if the UFO mystery is ever to be solved.

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  27. Dear Jim,
    I won't go over again my views on MUFON. James Carrion the international director has resigned although i don't think it was in any way connected to this.
    You never know who will come down the pike so since I don't like to be prejudge myself, I will wait and see what the new director does.
    By the way if you want to really read a story on the what the dummies story did you should read my post on June Crain it was because of that stupid statement by the Air Force about the bodies being dummies that she came out publicly about what she knew working for Write Patterson Air Base from 1942 to 1953. She handle a piece of the Roswell craft. But read who she was as a person that also will blow your mind too. June was a dame good person and courageous also.
    "The Good American"
    http://ufomedia.blogspot.com/2007/01/good-american.html

    Thanks again
    Joe
    UFOMM

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  28. You are right, Joseph. I guess it is better to see how the new director will handle things. Carrion, it seems, was juggling too many responsibilities. But again, a UFO organization like MUFON really does need to start trying something different. There are reports of UFOs and humanoid encounters all over the Internet, but everything is after the fact. All anybody seems to do is report sightings and encounters. A group like MUFON that has money to spend would be better served by focusing its resources on going over offialdom's head to obtain the smoking gun proof. There are many people out there, including me, who know something extraordinary is occurring and want answers. I know MUFON wants answers, too. There are better ways of getting to the bottom of this mystery rather than investigating alleged encounters and sightings. The time has come for civilians who want answers to go after the aliens rather than waiting for the aliens to come to them. These creatures have for too long been taking advantage of the fact that we are thousands if not millions of years behind them in technological prowess. Maybe some good old-fashioned human cleverness is necessary to turn the tables. It seems everybody - including MUFON - is just spinning their wheels in the present effort to get answers.

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  29. Dear Jim,
    I couldn't agree with you more. It is time to try active investigation. Multiple sightings cases are a great way to go. There have been people who have property where UFOs frequent. I just read a report recently at MUFON. Why not stake out the property and try to catch the phenomenon instead of always going there after the fact taking notes and measurements.
    I hope someone starts taking the reins of MUFON and bring the org. into the 21 century. It can be done with the right person.
    Thanks Jim
    Joe
    UFOMM

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  30. GIDWA

    I am sort of ambivalent about what happened in this situation.

    On the one hand, as most of you have said, it is upsetting to see an officer of MUFON do something that may make the organization look like another one of those sham hucksters trying to make a little fame and fortune by making wild claims. I do believe you've hit the nail on the head about how it happened, though. It does sound like he is an honest person, and got pulled into it little by little.

    On the other hand, I am sort of glad he saw how they operate (which he wouldn't have, if he hadn't went along with them), so he could expose it. Most people who don't believe in UFOs, or just don't think much about it, probably only get any exposure to it at all from television. So, without someone to set them straight, they may believe these shows like Mystery Quest, UFO hunters, Ghost hunters, etc. are legitimate. Then, thinking they are legitimate, and seeing how they never find anything (or, if you watch more than one episode, noticing how every single show progresses the same way, with the same result), they may come to believe the show itself proves the whole topic is a hoax.

    I have long thought these shows were fake, but wasn't sure. I am glad he did it (this one time only). I am glad he had the courage to admit it, and to tell us what went on behind the scenes. The History channel should be ashamed, as well as the other networks who produce these kind of shows. I am only sorry that the show had a much wider potential audience than his article did. I hope he actively seeks radio and television shows to interview him about what happened, so he can show a wider general audience what schlock these shows are, and try to prove to people that is not what MUFON and real UFO believers are about.

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  31. I think some of these shows may be legitimate as far as not faking evidence. I think many of them may sensationalize what happen some, but that is expected. It is the stuff that can't be fake that should keep interested and some of couldn't be fake even if they tried. Also some of the people they interview are honest UFO or ghost witnesses that is always informative. So its a give and take with me. I think some very serious pheromone has been caught on some of these shows. If they would go the other way and both be serious and entertaining I think you would have a great show. As for MUFON it a wait a see with me right now.
    Thanks the comment it was well thought out.
    Joe
    UFOMM

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  32. Thanks Anonymous for getting the story straight.

    If only Mr. Capp and his followers could have seen all the great footage that was recorded of me talking about what MUFON does and what we are about.

    All that lovely bean footage ended up on the proverbial edit room floor.

    You are absolutely right. I had to play along in order to expose the network producers for what they are about.

    That was my intention from the start, so that I would be able to educate the public later about what really happens with these producers and shows.

    Obviously that was lost in translation.

    (I can't wait to see how my comments here will be twisted and turned out of context.)

    I will be happy to address this with Mr. Capp face to face.

    In closing....

    Would anyone out there like to hear about the positive things going on with MUFON?

    There is much!

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  33. Dear MUFON DPA,
    I am sorry you think I would twist the story I urge anyone out there to read his story in the MUFON Journals in my post that contain the two part story.
    Do you think that most of the people who watch the show read the MUFON Journal? Also I am not so sure that everyone who does a UFO show does this. This was a new show and trying to get ratings it was not a fair example. A good example would have been a well established show.
    As for you meeting me face to face. I usually go to the MUFON convention so you can meet me there.
    I have no ill toward you but I think you can't have it both ways. If you knew, like you wrote, that shows were doing this you could have written about that without participating. This is not a criminal investigation just a show.
    Joe
    UFOMM

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  34. I'm not sure I follow your logic, DPR. Joe touched on this in his response, and my thoughts are about the same: I imagne the number of people who would see the show and then eagerly Google 'MUFON' is very low. I believe you could have made a better case if you dropped out when they asked you to pretend you didnt know what the nose-cone was, then wrote about it in the MUFON Journal (as well as other places since a lot of people aren't members of the organization and do not get the Journal).

    Having read your response here, I am not disputing your original intent (I have no way of knowing either way), only the rationale that it would somehow expose these kinds of shows for what they are, to a massive audience.

    As far as MUFON doing good things -- I would certainly hope so! I'd be a little disappointed if everyone involved was sitting on their asses while myself and others sent in our annual fees.

    See, a lot of us are *actually* MUFON members and because of that, are entitled to our own opinions on how the organization (and it's chapters) operate. I think most of us wouldn't want to throw money at something some kind of faith in.

    You seem to believe that the purpose of your involvement was lost in translation (and if it was, it really isn't the reader's fault), but then you make a quip about how the people follwing this blog might twist your words, as if any one of us were going out of our way to discredit you or MUFON.

    In the end, there really isn't a need to twist anything.

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  35. For all who are reading this thread...

    If you are not included in my e-mail info pipeline and wish to be included so you can get updated info on MUFON, please forward to me your e-mail addy with a request to be included in the MUFON info pipeline and I'll add you to my list.

    Send your comments or request for inclusion to: mufonpr@gmail.com and I'll get you on my list.

    Thanks and keep your eyes on the sky!

    Mark Easter

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  36. Well, Mark, it was nice to hear from you. Hopefully you understand how the original story may have sounded to people with a serious interest in the UFO phenomenon. I give you a lot of credit, however, for at least reporting the facts. That is something you did not have to do, and the fact that you did says a lot. At the same time, I have to agree with Joseph and Deirdre on a lot of their points. A lot of people out there will see this episode and walk away from it believing that what they saw was factual. They will traipse about for the rest of their lives believing that what they saw was real because they will never research it further. They will never read your story. They will never see this blog. They'll take it for gospel because they saw it on TV. It should be noted that all of this is relative if MUFON or somebody finally uncovers the smoking gun proof that ET is here.

    By the way, Joseph, I just watched Part 4 of Butch Witkowski's presentation on human mutilations during the PA MUFON conference last year that you posted on youtube. Butch sounds like he means business. The Todd Sees story is something that needs to be resolved one way or the other. Will you be posting a Part 5 featuring Butch? If so, will it be soon, please?

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  37. Thanks Jim I don't think I did anything wrong or twisted anything in my post. I may not be an investigator because of my health but I am a member I attend MUFON conferences and their symposium. No one ever told me you have to be a cheerleader for MUFON to be a member. These questions are honest. I think MUFON in many ways has lost their baring. They say they are here to benefit humankind through their investigation I am an old man but even I can see that MUFON is not very innovative when it comes to UFO research. One innovative project was The Ambient Monitoring Project which sunk into the MUFON great hole I keep hearing about. Yes we need regular boots on the ground investigations but we also need to address the evolution of the phenomenon. We all agree there has been some changes. We now have multiple instances where UFOs are witnessed constantly. NIDS had the right idea with the skinwalker ranch but they did it the wrong way. Their arrogance did not include that there might be an intelligence on the other side studding them. NIDS wanted no part of Ufologist when they started and ended that research on the "Skinwalker" ranch and they blew it. MUFON could possible take a lesson from that. They could use Bigelows help by trying to achieve the same objective only learning from NIDS mistakes. Not necessary on that ranch but some reports are indicating it may be happening now more. If we had a real database we could put in "multiple sightings" and see what we come up with. I found one case by just hunting around the database by using "type of craft".
    I hope the new director is not a clone I hope also he has a vision. No matter what any of us think this is a new world let's use it.
    Thanks again keep coming back and I will put the rest by Butch on the tube by the weekend.
    Joe Capp
    UFO Media Matters

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  38. January 26th, 2010




    Mr. John Schuessler,
    MUFON International Director,
    The Mutual Mufon Network,
    World Headquarters,
    10143 West Chatfield Avenue,
    Unit 4, Littleton, Colorado,
    AMERICA 80127.


    Mr. Alexander Simon,
    Field Researcher Of UFO Interest World-Wide,
    Sir William Place,
    Suite #305C,
    8820-85 Street,
    Boonie Doon,
    Edmonton, Alberta
    CANADA T6C 3C2.

    Telus Telephone: #780-466-9719
    E-mail Address: alexandersimonea@gmail.com



    Dear Mr. Schuessler:

    According to a rare book in my collection under “UFO CANADA;” a Yurko Bondarchuk has exemplified how an Air-Base well located here in upper North-Bay were contemplating the direction of the Wind-Tunnel-Sock for lab analysis for Landing Pattern. During and according to witness reply to The R.C.M.P. as outlined in written form and signed by Mr. Edwin Ron Rossell and then First Lt. Reg' MacRae of Edmonton, Alberta that three discs, glowing blue spot-lighted their vehicle supplied by the then Military Authority of Central Ottawa whose league then was protecting the National security of the then Prime Minister who was nearby Missile site according to well known info' forwarded by the Attache, Mr. Steven Drue, a famed chronicler of aerial observatory in Alien contact here!
    For defence and retaliation, six Mig-2s flew over-head firing 30 sorties barring The USA emblem; and during the rampage a Huston, Texas Zombie-22 ultra deltoid winged fighter shot 9 'scud' like torpedos in air disabling the UFO closest to the Military site called 229-1a!
    Because of their bravery and heroism; 60 lives were spared and the Telex, an early kind of The Internet which was designed here in Capital City Alberta in 1941 by true same of valour full Roman Catholics as this Writer is truly Registered is in thanks for all the life saving of the Canadien Mint!!
    I thank all for their sincere respect in reading this true Article.









    Your truly,



    Mr. Alexander Simon.

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  39. Here's a link, Joseph, to an article I posted today on my website regarding the stuff Butch was talking about. The link is: http://site.thequirkzone.com/Top_Story

    By the way, thanks for putting up the rest of those videos.

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  40. Thanks Jim,
    Got it up faster than I thought I would also thanks for the link I will differently give it a read.

    Joe
    UFOMM

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  41. It is simply matchless topic

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  42. Yes, really. All above told the truth. Let's discuss this question. Here or in PM.

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  43. All Open Window
    By Writer Mr. Alexander Simon/ all replies: alexsim@telus.net

    Educator and researcher Mr. Daum Scott Rogo; lead a Division of ‘parapsychology’ in New York; specializing in medical treatment on the concern of trial of people involved in alien abduction; and is a famous Author who retired in Los Angeles, California prior to his last case study for the Society of Psychic Research then in a famous ‘think tank;’ in rich area as now; Beverly Hills, California! His Work is Central of Importance; and is a patriotic American that did Professor as on page-243; and while lecturing; wrote the final Chapter at the famous American (Mr. former President) John F. Kennedy University in Orinda, California; “Alien Abductions: True Cases of UFO Kidnappings.”
    The American Statement
    In, careful compelling research one proof is why a journalist Mr. Raymond Fowler; and argued Unidentified (though the monument of American Statement is conclusive); aliens are daggering for surveillance; and not of Earth!! For proof read the American Copy written Statement in book; “The Andreasson Affair;” published by the grand Prentice and Hill University; by Professor then at Eaglewood, Cliffs, New Jersey! In, His Study on aliens abducting people; a well read Statement was from a Canadian couple involved in depth investigation for a rare travel during the very first marriage as people of skin apart!! In the interrupted journey; a Ms Betty Hill and Mr. Barney Hill; not co placement; for Careers felt warm friendship; and begat a reason to find a carful vacation in Ontario; and were kindly and respectfully abducted! The Report is held well by the Federal Bureau of Investigation today and is total by the Central of Intelligence Agency as Project Blue Book priority #1!
    Personal Idiosyncrasies
    On, mapping the truth that aliens are removing people and raping mind and body; please further insight to the Official American investigation that is within all of Congress and held meetings including the most powerful agent to the United States of America – The Pentagon!! “Responsibility for handling UFOs should rest with either intelligence operations;” is Official Statement and the President of American then Mr. Richard Millhouse Nixon assured and created public knowledge that by a trained Yale Graduate Doctor Samuel Hynek; defined the following complete Blue Book on Project-Texas 1-A: On, Page-372 of the United States Airforce Technical Information Sheet; in; the Pentagon approved by the next President of The United States of America; Mr. Gerald Donald Ford;
    Open Book!!
    “This Questionnaire has been pressured that as you can see give the US Government as the US Air Force as such information on possible concerning the unidentifiable phenomena that you have shewred please try to server as many possible questions as you can see. The information that you will give will be used for the research purposes, and please as many purposes and will to reprisal to confidential material. You now all of be of steel of connection with any auguations and tenancies and publications without the pressure. You new all will not in steed in communism with any judgment.

    XX!!!!!!!


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  44. On, January 13, 2013

    When the United States Department took control and were assigned by Project Ozma; a, Doctorate by the Pentagon Commission; Mr. Ray Allen; to the Austin, Texas, and with Order on the US-President then; on May of 1966; 'derided;' false Reports to the White House including this one!!

    The lagging press convinced that all UFO Reports were a trail in mental confusion was retorted and find real American Study on a rare Book: By Mr. Frank Edwards: "Flying Saucers - Serious Business."

    According to UFOS Serious Business: The Inspector General on Official Order then; created the very first Pentagon accepted "Operations & Training; issue to find out if Aliens from other Worlds are interfering with Earth?
    With the rare World of Air Traffic Controllers; the Air Force with the Pentagon developed a Infra-Red scanning that helps associate the Alien enemy from Alien “friendly;” and works this way: According to “Local Control (known to pilots as "Tower" or "Tower Control") is responsible for the active runway surfaces;” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_traffic_control; … “all types of aircraft send back primary echoes of varying sizes to controllers' screens as radar energy is …” either vertical or horizontal; and Since centers control a large airspace area; air traffic controllers issue clearances and instructions at higher altitudes; of radar "finding" a target by interrogating the transponder!! The guidance or pattern scanning is a lengthy display of open or shut space on a frequency that is not amplitude nor frequency and all Aliens have this mapping to as in Mr. Edwards thesis to raid and abduct people at one term mostly, sleeping!! If, this sounds absurd then read over a real Pentagon valid and US Congress accepted date: On, the day of September and on air to air traffic control from Austin, Texas; the 19th day; on 1957; a newly developed and racing and experimental fighter with long-range killer ability near the U2; and the Burdon Austin, Texan; 5.76-all Alberta-built here in Edmonton; flew to 92,000 nearing the ‘window;’ of space travel!! Mr. Frank Edwards Air Force Base is rated and has the proof!! The Serious Business is during this rare historic climb; a UFO; photographed insert same Book; tried and recorded by Austin, Texan and Edmonton, Albertan air traffic pattern control as a “dog fight;” and in the war battle the UFO was undead!
    In the complex World of … “aviation flight category in which visual flight rules (VFR) flight is permitted—that is, conditions in which pilots have sufficient visibility to fly the aircraft maintaining visual separation;” and on ground level a scoping or scanning is needed to differ enemy from friendly aerial!! One early example is the Austin, Texas tower operations on call in Kentucky; by a rare letter from the Aur Technical Intelligence Center there in Austin; and read: … the “sufficient concern at high Military … establish a Project “Grudge;” to retund Project Sign; and all flight leaders find the First Leader of Command a Winnipeg, Canadian Sir Thomas Mantall; height a new bomber to enclose with new Radium Arton Deiploude Arton Radium; and scope out all Alien enemy!! In, this classic Study a real Briton lost his life fighting a real Alien!! “It looks metallic;” were not Sir Mantall (not Mantell) last words!! For the Chief of Staff in The Pentagon hired the second best English-Trainer; through American Military Command (AMC); and headed the nefarious Project Grudge; the next day; after covering the ground; with left remain; of a 21-year-old; (VIRGIN) of ENGLAND!! This was his birthday today!!

    The day is lost when a real Proud Son flies home dead!!

    All the day Care!!

    AS!!!!






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  45. THE AIR FORCE
    Rarely has a committed Major Donald Edwin Keyhoe a,United States former Marine who retired lost control of important information of alien enemy and here following another major investigator Mr. Frank Edwards is a conclusion operative to the famous Book: “Flying Saucers-Here and Now.”

    The most investigative concern are people visiting the Earth repeatedly and without a reason that is accepted! If, people are abducted normally during a dream rest; then the answer is known. The shocking truth is most abductees are not free to defend their travel while sleeping! The United States Air Force agrees! One reason according to the sited document stated is intelligent and technically advanced beings are open window and found a Panel of Washington to open a ‘Project Blue Book;’ for a Air Force Report! During this 1951 first Congress hearing on alien intervention; and before his untimely death; Mr. Edwards pioneered in Pittsburgh. His only TV-satellite news Programme in Capitol City Maryland was cancelled!! As serious researcher in alien intervention Mr. Edwards approached The Congress and described his manuscript in full American honesty!!

    A General Lauris Norstadt Head of North Atlantic Treaty Organization, (NATO); answered the Committee with two Gold Texan Stars!! The Secretary of Defense left amazed! At lightening fury all of the Congress; opened a next Chapter Project Blue Book!! At the time of Publication Mr. Frank Edwards missed the first Reading!!

    In conclusion; as per Air Force Investigators;’ mapped a rare special report; by the United States Air Force; briefing for the Air Command Defense; a rare Doctor Johnston Allen Hyneck; stated inside Congress that more scientific reports should be ordered by the Pentagon via The Air Force for more American interest!!

    While the US Government and was angry if the ‘Flying Saucers and here and Now’; if the US Air Force; no Member agreed that only communists were tampering for a FULL DISCLOUSRE!!

    “FULL DISCLOSURE!” Is an amazing new look into “Project Blue Book and Flying Saucers Here and Now;” and the talent is waiting only the American truth on aliens intervening and here and now!!

    By Writer Mr. Alexander Simon of Edmonton.




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  46. http://blog.foolsmountain.com/2009/09/01/yukio-hatoyama-japans-new-prime-minister-a-new-path-for-japan/

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  47. Today as ever day; the one Question is when People sleep; can aliens take a outline of their body and codex their being away? Let's take a view: On average the American hard working class may sleep 6.2 hours per day. In every hard case copy of UFO abduction; the daylight is clear! Weird aliens with wide eyes enter the bedroom for abduction. The Federal Bureau of Investigation does have many Docia's involving transferring People without their intention!! Why we sleep normally is to repair our bodies. Yet aliens know this. There involvement is bizarre and involving. During the 'sleep;' hypnosis; people "drift;" into a field on concious; whereby; dreams or 'lifts;' as the British imagine take place for reality or time. Yet; the Person is aware that a abduction is he or she!! The interest is major outer world intelligence can abduct in a world of rest or repair; for the body Person while the never rest?!

    In, all Cases of UFOs and abductions all Creatures not born in Earth are disturbing and have no need to dream.

    The proof is dream analysis proves People can recollect they were abducted or "Time Stolen." If the theory is conducive; the plausm; is aliens look nothing like People and their Deoxyrubulic Nucleac Acid; or DNA code is needed to overtake People on Earth.

    When Barney and Betty Hill were in a dream state by Benjamin Simon; famous Harvard Psychiatrist examined both genuine People one a Union Mail-Man his wife a Union Librarian; he found their Story true!!

    Dreams un-ravel the Paramount of deceit. The problem is aliens can-and-will kill People if sleeping and few abductions occur while awake.

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  48. Why; and please let me know as a avid fan of friendly UFOs if Mr. Benjamin Simon was abducted? If he was a Harvard Graduated where and was this mix couple involved with Project Blue Book. To be a Boston couple and white and black; here in Edmonton it is not accepted. Period.

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  49. The final reply is rare aerial sightings still belong to credible People including the famous former President James Carter who viewed many and was scoffed for being credible. If, he is not; why would the American Public vote a great man in to the Union?

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  50. FIGHT FOR YOUR NATION!!
    INSCRIPTION: DIE A HERO AND NOT A COWARD;
    Hey all men and women is it World War 4?
    Well all Nations will in script you for Our Nation’
    So Fight ready the Country you love needs a
    Man and women who really cares for Nation!!

    We are battle ready and very mad for love of
    Mother and our girl and boy raising hell too!!
    So fight damn well and win for Our Nation!!

    Let’s set our MD Military and smile as we
    Are screened for not lousy dirt,
    And as we smile strong and blue cool.
    We will see mother and father alive!!
    By a Warrior writer Alexander Simon

    I foresee that on October 17, 2017 WW4
    Will occur.
    By Writer Alexander Simon
    Roman Catholic!!!!

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  51. FIGHT FOR YOUR NATION!!
    INSCRIPTION: DIE A HERO AND NOT A COWARD;
    Hey all men and women is it World War 4?
    Well all Nations will in script you for Our Nation’
    So Fight ready the Country you love needs a
    Man and women who really cares for Nation!!

    We are battle ready and very mad for love of
    Mother and our girl and boy raising hell too!!
    So fight damn well and win for Our Nation!!

    Let’s set our MD Military and smile as we
    Are screened for not lousy dirt,
    And as we smile strong and blue cool.
    We will see mother and father alive!!
    By a Warrior writer Alexander Simon

    I foresee that on October 17, 2017 WW4
    Will occur.
    By Writer Alexander Simon
    Roman Catholic!!!!

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