Friday, August 22, 2008

Betty And Barney Hill Part 2: Light, Action, Camera!

First, a travel update:
Warp Drive New Approach
This energy requirement for space travel would drop dramatically if we assumed a thin shell of modified space-time instead of a bubble:

Now that we’re beyond the absolute nonsense used by the debunkers to discredit the Hills’ story, we have to address the details of what the Hills actually reported.

Problem is, the ETs don’t make sense.

Let’s take a close look at these ETs, their actions and their “accoutrements”, as Harlan Ellison would say. Where I’m going with my ETs Don’t Make Sense theory is mostly guided by two sources, the great book Captured by Stanton Friedman and Betty’s niece, Kathleen Marden, and listening to the Hills’ therapy session tapes.

After the Hills are taken aboard the ship, the ETs or entities led Barney and Betty to different exanimation rooms which looked very similar to ours --but not quite. Betty describes the examining table as hard, and about four feet long; Barney mentions how his feet were sticking over the end.

This description begs the question. The same kind of tables we have? And the similarities go on. The examination itself is very similar to an extensive examination in a doctor’s office. The instruments are different but similar to ours. This additional similarity is problematic: why? Does evolving a million years, or even 500 years into the future only give you star travel, while everything else remains stuck in time, consistent with what our technology is now?

It stretches the imagination beyond belief that star-traveling ETs have no advanced methods --including less painful methods-- of performing these medical tests.

The Relax, It’s Just The Trickster Myth At Work people claim this entire terrifying scenario shared in part, yet distinguished by particular differences between both individuals’ experience, was a projection of collective conscious. And so the Trickster Myth people would have us join their collective delusion that these terrifying claims of Barney and Betty Hill are nothing more than iconic mind projections.

That would be nice if we could leave it there. Unfortunately these myths and iconic projections have...been recorded on radar, killed our pilots, disabled our missiles, and destroyed at least one of our missiles --representing the most advanced weaponry on Earth.

In one instance the entity scrapes Betty Hill’s skin with a blade. Betty understands the ETs’ purpose is to take skin samples. Here again, an advance species is still scraping the skin the way we do. Then, as Betty is lying on the table, the entity tries to insert a needle attached to a device into her navel, much the we perform amniocentesis...but again a minor difference. She complains that it hurts and they stop, but the needle it the “biggest I ever saw.” We find in this instance some type of test that was not feasible at the time, but does became a fairly common though costly test in the near future.

And here a principle takes shape: surroundings, tools, and procedures similar to ours, yet medically advanced…but not by much.

Betty notices a map and questions the entity about it. The ET explains that this is a map of their home world and their travels to new worlds. The entity explains what the solid and dashed lines mean: solid lines show two-way trade with other worlds and dashed lines indicate expeditions into new systems. What a wonderful word to use, “trade”. We understand trade as having a benign meaning.

So are we saying that solid lines are used the same way we use them. This map showing their home world. Why would they let other entities see these maps? Why would an apparently strategic trade map, illustrating economic relationships, be shown to a medical examinee?

Video Clip: The Abduction Lie: Taken While Awake


From Channel jcappufo You Tube

Then the ETs have a problem with Betty’s zipper. They didn’t know what a zipper was?
The entity offers Betty something to take back with her, a book --again, similar to ours-- and he tells her she can have the book.

Let’s think this over. Apparent extraterrestrials capture two mated humans on a lonely road and put them in a deep trance, force them [or at least one of them] to take highly invasive, dangerous and painful medical tests, and then the ET entity wants to give the female, at her request, absolute proof of their capture, conversation, and probably, of their identify. Of course it doesn’t happen, but what happens after that seems even stranger. The entity debates the subject of the gift book with another entity, and he loses the debate. In other words, among this crew of an apparent interstellar craft crew the rule: “no leaving the natives proof” was something new, something this other entity was unaware of?

But you have to admit all this exchange is so easily recognizeable, so understandable to us because most of what these ETs do, we do.

Knowing with all my heart right now these abductees are not lying or dreaming, and believing most of what they report, I have come to the conclusion the Betty and Barney Hill abduction was staged for the Hills’ benefit and for our benefit. Yes, the entities knew the psychological block would eventually wear off, they know this is always the case. Why wouldn’t they be aware of the limitations of their mind control technology?

What is happening aboard these ships is not so much esoteric, as it is a good nuts and bolts stage show.

But why do these entities validate the experience by showcasing future events and techniques?

These may be subliminal messages given to the Hills, a pregnancy test not in use yet, three dimensional mapping, strange book, and the star system sequence which wouldn’t fit our observable skyscape --or our computer-calculable maps for years.

What is the end result? They are like us.

It may be these ETs, these entities don’t actually need or use the tools or types of instrumentation displayed to the Hills and others. But in that instance, would we even understand what was happening?

We have to admit now the ETs are doing some type of symbol communications.

They also seem to be able to put suggestions into peoples minds. So why not stages to present themselves, while they do whatever it is they need to do?

We find a message of familiarity in all these types of objects, a communication we can understand and relate to…US YET NOT US.

The retelling of the Hills’ true experience does not suggest a horrible, killing ET invader, but rather, ETs with the same compassion and curiosity that we have…scary but not too scary.

The whole interaction may be a way to communicate to us in a benign way. The mentioning of trade to us signifies the peaceful co-existence of our world. Are they suggesting it is a part of their world, too?

I believe, considering our continuing development of a world view, that ETs may have a developed an experienced Worlds View. What does that mean? It means in the final analysis, if anyone has the experience of when to disclose the ETs’ occasional presence among other worldly species, it would be them…and maybe… just maybe… now is the time.

Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog


  1. wow! Great piece Joseph. I've long suspected that there is something other than aliens from space responsible for abductions. NOT the shared myth thing either. Something else, very possibly us, like MILABS. Or some combination of us and "them" -- something.

    But at its core, something very human.

  2. Well thanks Ragan, but I still believe we should include ETs. Everything we do in groups is communication. body language etc. These other worldly entities "ETs" may be using a familiar platform to control, but most of all interact, with us their abductees. Interact is a key word for me. I don't see that as being so way out there.
    I am saying everything is on the table. One thing we know without question...we, humans are here now we have gone into space; we want to go further into space; we yearn for it and if we found a cheep way tomorrow to go to another star we would do it in a heart beat as others have. But to get to that place means some humility about meddling too much.

    So let's think beyond the box in ETS and ever other explanation.
    Two rules for me.
    1. Never underestimate someone or something smarter than you.
    2, Never underestimate yourself in believing what you want to believe
    Joe Capp
    UFO Media Matters
    Non-Commercial Blog

  3. Fascinating examination of the Hill's experience. The odd question of their reaction to Barney's false teeth has always puzzled me. Your theory may well be correct.

  4. Dear Bob
    I've wonder for years what they are really communicating in their behavior. As if they just got here and they are not that advanced. They know very little about us. They don't even monitor our broadcast. They seem to sense our language rather then have leaned it through monitoring. They suggest a passing interest in us instead of a ongoing relationship. I think everyone is so busy proving that ETS exist they haven't ask themselves the honest question; they couldn't possible be what they are showing us? It is not advanced enough.
    Some say this has to mean it is metaphysical in nature. I say that is a enormous instatement what technology could do in the future, including the possible manipulation of the paranormal if the meaning is not sacred.
    I think it is ETs way of communicating in symbols we understand. If they pulled out their real equipment would we even know what it was. To say ETS want to remain completely hidden is nonsense. The history of ET sightings show they intentionally will display. So I believe there is a continuing conditioning(especially now) going on to their presence as they remain hidden.
    By they way I wrap the package in what I call "Applied Species Psychology" ASP it is the belief that others ETs would develop whole psychological disciplines on how to interact with other worldly intelligent species like us.
    Thanks Again Bob.

    Joe Capp
    UFO Media Matters
    Non-Commercial Blog

  5. I read both your Betty and Barney Hill pieces. Good stuff - as always. Very interesting theories (though we all know anything can't be proven). I liked your theory about them withholding technology to sort of level themselves to our reality. Like using books and screens and such when it actually might not be needed. That is probably on the spot.

    IMO the whole benign abduction scenario which is a spin of a "crazy doctor's visit" is some sort of an attempt to normalize an dimensional experience that otherwise could seem way too invasive/crazy. It must make sense for us to embrace it. And if they want to get some kind of message through, that is the route they must take.

    So what is the big picture? There might be several extra-terrestrial races having different agendas. Even though abduction victims report somewhat similar stories they differ much in their experiences whether it was pleasant or hostile in the end. It is easy to see why a more evil/cynic race would like to blame a benign race by mimicing their abductions while putting their own spin on it. Heck, the US military could produce a convincing abduction case using drugs and proven inducing methods (programming) on the victims at hand mimicing known abduction cases like the BB-Hill case but putting some evil spin on it.

    A clear picture of what is happening can not be gotten from the Betty and Barney Hill case. I feel you get more questions than answers in the end.

    I believe Betty and Barney however and think that some abductions probably are real. I don't think that 10%-25% of the US population (like some "researchers" say) have been abducted but the phenomenon is likely real (more likely than NOT).

    The whole abduction issue is very interesting but I really understand why serious UFOlogists keep away from it. It is too easy to attack/ridicule the people and their stories usually aren't backed up by anything tangible. There is the lack of physical evidence. Dirty shoes from being abducted or subjectively experienced "missing time" doesn't really count as evidence for many people. Even I tend to be VERY skeptic of people like Jim Sparks whose only proof is his story (that he tells EVERYWHERE to whomever wants to hear/pay him...).

    // Daniel Bergh, Sweden

  6. Dear Daniel,
    Some excellent points you made. Human beings constantly underestimate these entities. Some of the better abduction investigators filter out those who don't have other evidence to back them up. I doubt millions of people are being abducted. As with UFOs many of the reports are misinterpreting of what is happening, hoaxing or even a way to write a book.
    But there is that core. And when you look at those, although the ETS may resemble other ETS the instruments are always different and so are, what I call the bells and whistles on the ships. I believe this is another form of disinformation by the ETs or entities to promote inconsistency in the descriptions. Being smarter than us really means being smarter than us. There were some sci-fi stories were this topic (ETs who out smarted humans ) was really dealt with in an realistic manner. Some UFO researcher should read thin about reading more sci-fi, maybe they will start to think a little more outside the box.
    Thanks again Daniel for a insightful comment.
    Joseph Capp
    UFO Media Matters

  7. Hi Joseph,

    Oh don't get me wrong; I think it's ET as well! ET exists, as in real literal alien. I just think there's a whole lot of other stuff as well, including some MILAB type stuff, that goes on some of the time.

  8. Dear Regen
    Yes I agree. The focus on the article was how we seem to write about the ETs as if they are very two dimensional. I really believe they are old hands at hiding. The way they do it is complex, because humans always look for logic in intelligence and when it is not there they dismiss the phenomenon. I believe ETs know exactly what our great minds will accept and won't accept and this is they way they control the power to act against them. They know the government will never admit to ETs but the people has been known to force the government to do many things it doesn't want to do. So the wild card is the people and the smart people with clout especially . These are the people the ETs aim for with disinformation. Sowing confusing about the UfO phenomenon is very effective inside and outside the UFO community.
    Thanks Again

  9. Curious as to why people persist in saying "Betty and Barney Hill...?" Has everyone gone mysteriously feminist all of a sudden or is a form of inadvertent racism, the kind this couple faced back in the 60's? Betty took Barney's last name...not the other way around thus when referring to this couple who did more for the UFO investigative communities than many others, we should out of respect say "Barney and Betty Hill!"
    Let's do the right thing.

  10. Dear Anonymous,
    I think what really happened in this case was Betty became more of the spokeperson on what happened. Barney was quite upset about the whole thing and even after it became public. Could it be because he was black that people refer to her first. I don't know. All I know is for me Betty was the more active and verbal one. But that is one I have to think about. We could aslo say why do mens names come first anyway.
    Joe Capp
    UFO Media Matters.