Isn’t it just like a scientist to conclude it’s fake --without even looking?
But sometimes, that knee-jerk response can backfire.
If you haven’t heard about the Kumburgas, Turkey UFO video, take the quickie tour with me. Then read how the scientists’ knee-jerked themselves into…UFO advocates.
Kumburgas was a close encounter with multiple witnesses present during filming over several weeks. The objects were not lights in the sky, but structured craft.
This was the orginal as presented on U-Tube You can see beings in the window:
Yet before they even examined this video, the scientists said claimed it was a hoax:
“Prof. Adnan Öktem from the Istanbul University Department of Astronomy Sciences, Prof. Mehmet Emin Ozel from the 18 March University Department of Physics and Prof. Kerem Doksat from the Istanbul University Department of Psychiatry claimed with great prejudice that the footages taken in Kumburgaz were a hoax made up by a mockup or computer animation without having conducted an analysis or any kind of study.”
Turkish ufology group, Sirius, had already done exhaustive research on this video. Their conclusions agreed with the scientists' report.
This Video is their analysis here:
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After Professor OKtem had it analyzed, the report stated:
"The objects sighted in the aforementioned footage that have a structure that is made of specific material are definitely not made up by any kind of computer animation nor are they any form of special effects used for simulation in a studio or for a video effect therefore in conclusion it was decided that the sightings were neither a mockup or hoax. "
But do the Turkish scientists accidentally give ufology a bit of an assist here, by citing all the things the objects can’t be? Indie Turkish researchers from the Sirius ufology group suggest the scientists unwittingly help the cause here:
Furthermore in the last part of the report, it was concluded that these objects in the sightings that have physical and material structures do not belong in any category ( such as; planes, helicopters, meteors, Venus, Mars, satellites, fire balls, Chinese lantern… etc.) and but rather fall into the category of UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects )...
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0208/kumburaz.html
Checkmate!
What happened at Kumburgas, Turkey, was a night watchman filmed this craft while at least twelve other witnesses viewed the same objects. I discovered the video some time ago when it went up on U-Tube --one of my video buddies let me in on it. The info was sketchy and I never like to hurt any witnesses who come forward, so I waited and looked around. I did later find that this video was, in fact, analyzed. But the info was sketchy.
Thank God for "The Anomalist" web site! Went there today and they had a link to "UFO Digest" with the video, and a great detailed article on what happened by Haktan Akdogan.
http://www.anomalist.com/
You have to give the scientists credit, though, they didn’t try to cover it up or fake their conclusions. Since this was in Turkey, the scientists can’t be blamed for not sending the video to some of the labs in America. I should also mention here that the Sirius UFO Space Sciences Research Center in Turkey was first in the ufology community to study this footage, and they came to the same conclusions as the scientists did. But we all know, unfortunately, the ufology community’s view doesn’t count in the real world.
Now here is an enhanced version of the Video on U-Tube. It seems to shows some typicle grays in a craft window:
What do the people of this planet need to convince them something is here? It’s now time to understand evidence is out there that is not someone’s fantasy, not a hoax.
Normal, family-oriented people are filming tremendous craft in the sky all over the world. Presidential Candidates are having close encounters. We see an unending UFO flap in Mexico and the explosion of the topic on U-TUBE:
Why does everyone have to keep quiet and pretend this is not happening? Is it because some intellectually lazy scientists claim nothing’s happening? Too many Americans listen to mainstream scientists’ explanations like scripture, without even letting the most basic question escape form in their minds.
Are mainstream scientists our new gods or something? Maybe they’re our new inquisitors.
The Turkish UFO videos are the latest proof which helps support the UFO witnesses who bring corragously bring us this great information. In the public domain is where you will find the answer to government cover-ups. evidence is stacking up, the quantity and quality of images and reports are overwhelming and it is all coming from the regular people.
Is it possible ETS are helping us make public disclosure a reality? The answer is still out there.
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commerical Blog
This is ridiculous. There's no way anybody can tell what those blown apart pixels are, leave it to someone to base their interpretation upon their previous beliefs/biases. I tell you nobody gets sillier than the 'ufologist'. Even the video of the supposed ufo is lacking. Where are background objects? Why automatically assume something is real? What about the supposed Turkish 'authorities'? Have you personally checked out their credentials or are you, because it fits your belief system, trusting the words of the people supplying this interpretation-I'm assuming you don't speak or read Turkish.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, some of the 'ufologists' you mock include Dwight Eisenhower, General Douglas MacArthur, and JFK. Project Sign in 1948 conducted by the air force with the brightest minds available concluded sightings were "inter planetary" look it up. Oh, and your a tool.
DeleteThe universe is 13.8 billion years old. Currently the "observable universe" has an estimated 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets residing in it. Intelligent life (humans) have been around for roughly 50 thousand years. People who claim that the universe has no other intelligent life aside from us need a serious wake up all. It is absolutely ridiculous to assume such idiocy.
DeleteThe universe is 13.8 billion years old. Currently the "observable universe" has an estimated 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets residing in it. Intelligent life (humans) have been around for roughly 50 thousand years. People who claim that the universe has no other intelligent life aside from us need a serious wake up all. It is absolutely ridiculous to assume such idiocy.
DeleteDear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteI am not a Ufologist just a witness and a writer. As far as the quaility of the film it is from U-Tube not original. From my next post on "The Atlantic UFO Conference".
"Now to Kumburgas, Turkey UFO video.
I spoke at length with Farah Yurdozu a famous UFO researcher from Turkey living in Amercia now.
Here is what she said: yes the of Astronomy Sciences report claimed it was a UFO but it was not extraterrestrial.
There is no way in a million years the University Department could know it was not extraterrestrial if they admit they were UFOs…Unidentified!
I asked her for specifics and she ask me if I could read her language. Well so much for open discourse. She kept saying but it is “But It Is Not My Case?” It may not be her case but if she believes that this was some type of hype, she has a obligation. being in unique position in American and the UFO feild to write something specific about it.
I know for a fact that there is too much jealousy among UFO researchers. That isn’t even practical. Don’t they get it? If ETs become a public certainly they will be the most interviewed people on earth".
Joe Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog
so retarded, to say this couldn't be cg.. didn't you guys see transformers? you can make anything! especially this, I could do this in maya in about 20min
ReplyDeletewe all know this is just a hoax...
ReplyDeleteDear daylstone,
ReplyDeleteWell you have the floor prove it. I just saw an presentation 2/28/09 on it last week with video of the mainstream scientists who haeded the optics department. They looked carefully at it in Istanbul. They agreeded "it was not a model or aircraft or superimposed it was a very large object." By the way they made no money.
Now if you think two Security Guards would put their jobs in jeapardy, fine. One of your theories is wrong already. I don't know it's a hoax, and I know many who don't, so there you go. Up to you
Joe Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog
that is the ufo enthusiasts arguement ?
ReplyDeleteprove it is fake ? I would believe anything if you show the hard evidence , this could very well be a real alien ship with the being/s ( is there more than one being?) flying it around using their "mind control tecnique" , to be honest i dont know , i do know this video is really bad quality and you really cant tell what your looking at. so what if it is real? what does it change ?
the aliens/ufo pilots come here and make contact ? no ? thats why nobody cares. aliens could come and land here on earth and make contact but before long everyone would just be going about there everyday lives and we would say , "hey remember when those aliens landed on earth? that was pretty cool" , just like we say "hey remember when george bush son cheated his way into presidency? and when the terrorist flew planes into buildings?" , hey remember when that tsunami killed more than 100,000 people the day after Christmas ? remember when hitler tried to take over the world and killed millions of Jewish ?
I can see why you call yourself anonymous.
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DeleteDear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteThe title was a quote.
You don't have to be a UFO enthusiast to believe UFOs are probably alien technology. We know, for a certain sentient specie, going into space was important. That's us. I believe if we stop trying to kill each other we may someday even get to the stars.
We have technological life on this planet and most likely we have others even way older. Now if you want to believe this whole thing was made 15 billions light years ago and no one ever made it here that is fine. But I claim the signs are all around us that something is here.
Everything points to intelligence, technology and non-human pilots.
I also think you underestimate the reaction public contact would have on some fundamentalist religions. We know right now the christian right claims if ETs are real they are evil "demons". So what does that mean when they land? Will it mean that any government that tries to normalize relations with these ETs part of the "beast".
This is not a simple matter. That is why, wise people in the government kept it quiet. How do you disclose anything when you don't know the biggest question of all, why?
Thanks
Joe
UFOMM
I have difficulty agreeing with the use of the word "probably" at the beginning of your reply. Possibly would be far more appropriate. Even granting a UFO enthusiast many of the necessary assumptions required for it to be possible, such as: Aliens finding earth, aliens possessing a reason to come to earth, aliens possessing interstellar travel abilities capable of making it here, reasons they are rarely picked up on various forms of radar, and so forth, it is difficult to say, in all likelihood, human misinterpretation is not the source of many sightings.
DeleteI am open minded but sceptical. I don't see how this competing hypothesis is less likely to be the correct conclusion than aliens. http://forgetomori.com/2010/ufos/kumburgaz-turkey-ufo-yacht-window-reflections/
In fact, if I were to take away all of those granted assumptions earlier given, it seems far more likely that these UFOs would be something mundane. I don't doubt the various groups that say the video is authentic and not an intentional hoax; however, I think confirmation bias may be leading the UFO enthusiast to see alien technology to the chagrin of their more sceptical peers or audience.
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ReplyDeleteI really like this video. I've read countless places that it was authentic - first and foremost being a UK newspaper. My only complaint though is on the analysis of the windows to try to identify what looks to me to be nothing more than a lighting effect as aliens. Other than that, thanks for sharing this!
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteThere certainly isn't anything definitive about this video. I looked at the video carefully and the "aliens" never moved making me believe it is a object of some kind on the craft it dose not look like a refection.
Thanks
Joe
UFOMM
please check out www.turkeyufocase.blogspot.com for more evidence.
ReplyDeleteYes this case is real
Not a hoax
necessary stars travel
ReplyDelete...interstellar travel (aliens in Moon?)...are there aliens in Moon´s occult face?, perhaps they could be go to/come from faraway in straight line beyond occult face, for not to be detected from Earth... It´s something strange that NASA cancelled the 2 last Apollo missions when they were in all prepared for launch to Moon... Why astronauts when came back from Moon they were stay silent so?. Why NASA has not went again to Moon from ½ century ago?...economic reasons?...or, the Evil Empire: religion, armies, monarchies and politicians...are the causers too, besides of wars, besides control of all global media, and they are hiding the truth to People, to continue "forever and ever" with its lies living from the People´s Work and do not changes actually anything in World: religion, poverty, violence, ignorance... People say (ufo TV) was detected in Space an alien spacecraft with 800 kms! size... Can to have, near, aliens yes, or aliens not (in Universe of course there are a great quantity of Intelligent Beings like us), but... The face of the Moon...really seems a face, no other satellite in Solar System has that human appearance... is like...if it would look us... By chance?, or...aliens a very long time ago did it... The Earth is only a sand grain on beach of the Universe...exterior Space calls us...
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