Heads Up New Yorkers: Intruders Foundation in Manhattan is having speakers again. December 5th Col Charles Halt retired will be speaking o the n Rendlesham UFO incident. Here is the link for pertinent information.
http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/if_events.html
A few years ago MUFON tried to catch ETs abducting humans. They selected a group of documented alien abductees and they began putting specially designed sensing units in each abductees’ home. MUFON had the abductee fill out forms each day on their recollection of the night before i.e., whether they thought something happened or not. The idea was simple and smart. You collate the data from the “tamper proof” sensors with the days that the abductee felt something happened. If the sensor picked up anomalies you would have independent verification something strange happened that same night. MUFON was smart; they expanded this to a good group of candidates which in the end could collaborate evidence from several units showing the same thing. This would be powerful evidence something was happening and it wasn’t not “night terrors.”
These are two photos of these sensor prototypes which were suppose to be disguised as normal everyday fixtures. The one on the right is their final modal.
Now I know many of you out there will say, “you can’t fool the ETs; they are too advanced”. I think the history of human – alien contact is full of ETs making mistakes, whether through arrogance, or just plain being imperfect. Bud Hopkins has been reporting for years how these entities make mistakes. When you think of public media and scientific reaction to ETs abduction, it is no wonder they treat us sometimes without a thought. I think, they think, we are just plain stupid. Maybe they‘re right.
So with this belief system in tow, MUFON went on trying for years to get the “Abduction Monitoring Project” up and running. Money, designing gear, and time were working against them but through the work of the grunts, it finally happened. They received the money and began the project. First, they had to change the name; why, you ask? Well they wanted independent outside verification and the word “abduction” turned these sources off, so it ended up being named the “Ambient Monitoring Project”. They also had to find the right abductees, which had to be solidly documented abduction cases. In the end they had sensors in place (Picture Below) and eventually gathered all the information they needed over several months. . These abductees’ names and such have been kept under wrap for obvious reasons. There is one problem I have with the selection process. The researcher whose cases these abduction candidates were selected from is also under wrap and he should be out there. Whoever made the selection process needs to be questioned about the process and the documentation around these candidates. As far as I know he/she has not gone public.
THE AMBIENT MONITORING PROJECT: MUFON Journal July 2008 #483.
So where is MUFON now with this data? “Nowhere, Man.” You see the big hang-up was getting an independent expert to work on this data with the money they had. They just couldn’t afford it. It seems this data is still sitting there gathering dust.
So my question is why not have someone they can afford do it? Ok, the best scenario is completely independent evaluation, but absence of that, any collating of the evidence is better than none. If these sensors have a chance in hell of monitoring anomalies in abduction cases than why not reveal the statistics for the public to view and analyze, if that be the case.. I don’t see why they can’t do both. I am sure there are volunteers in MUFON who could interpret this data. Why not use them? Is proving how great you are to scientists, who don’t even look at the evidence, more important than knowing what happened? In the future when MUFON has the money, they can have additional sources look the data over. The data doesn’t change.
I think MUFON’s first duty is to the witnesses and experiencers. If you believe some people are being abducted then why not release the data one way or the other? James Carrion recently leaked a document against MUFON’s own training manual suggestions, to debunk Stan Romanek. It seems MUFON, like Stan Romanek is sitting on it’s own unreleased documentation.
Right this minute MUFON has all of this data just sitting there at MUFON with no word of what happened or where they are with it. This project was designed to reveal the truth behind abductions. The hard work and determination of those who were part of this investigation needs to be rewarded with a conclusion. There might be all kinds of things happening with this project but you wouldn’t know it by the MUFON Journal, which first reported it. The Journal, at times, puts things out there without follow-ups and many times that leaves me wondering; What Happened?
So I ask with all due respect MUFON: What Happened To The Ambient Monitoring Project?
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog
Exactly! Go figure. I wrote them way back when everyone was tweeting and re-tweeting the info on that. I got the email address and wrote right away. Never heard a thing back.
ReplyDeleteI think it's all blow, no go. Somebody got a nut about doing something for the abductees, and then it went south like a duck in winter.
I talked to IQXS briefly about it and they weren't surprised either since nobody had said anything since.
I remember a few years ago when Mufon were talking up this project, and they made quite a song and dance about it. I think whoever conducted the research would have been able to use the equipment, and by extension have some understanding of the results. So my impression is that the experiment was a failure and they are hoping someone else will waste their time proving that for them. If they had any indication that the results were positive it would be a massive brekthrough and they would have no problem finding researchers interested
ReplyDeleteIt was certainly interesting for me to read the article. Thanks for it. I like such themes and anything that is connected to them. I definitely want to read more soon.
ReplyDeleteDear Fortuna,
ReplyDeleteI have been waiting not only for the results of this project but how information on how they went about picking candidates since most of the great candidates are from Budd Hopkins' or David Jacobs cases. The MUFON Journal was not willing to put forth any information on how they were picked and what Abduction Researcher helped them, if any.
MUFON is sitting on evidence that really doesn't belong to them it belongs to everyone, especially to the abductees.
Joe Capp
UFOMM
UFO Media Matters
Dear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteI promise to try and find out what is happening on this MUFON project. James Carrion Director of MUFON no longer answers my emails I gave up 6 months ago on that. But there are people I know inside MUFON that may help. Get checking back for an update.
Thanks You
Joe Capp
UFOMM
Some, perhaps all of the folks who are 'taken' seem to be monitored if not 24/7, then something close to it. If the abductee or experiencer has knowledge of the monitoring device then his abductors or alien friends are most likely instantly aware of it as well. If true, they have the opportunity to avoid or counter any monitoring equipment that might have been set up.
ReplyDeleteI think to be effective any monitoring would have to be done without the knowledge of the experiencer. I would be surprised if this has not already been attempted by the governmental or privatized agency (whichever it is) that is monitoring the UFO phenomena.
To complicate things further I have come to think some, if not all, of the various non-human intelligences visiting the earth do not 'register' normally with our senses or within our minds. The human mind and the sensory apparatus that feeds it with information about the outside world evolved on this planet and is well adapted to present 'earthly things' to our awareness. Unearthly things that do not conform to the design specifications of our mind and senses may not display or may display in an inconsistent or unintelligible manner within our minds. True alien beings may indeed confound the senses and the mind so to speak.
Building instrumentation that maps normally imperceptible phenomena to our senses is possible, thermal imaging is a simple example of this. Heat is mapped to the visible spectrum and is displayed so a human can 'see' what is normally invisible. The problem with building something that detects aliens is one of what to map to what ... what do you key on? I would think it would require a wide spectrum of instrumentation to eventually narrow down what would be needed. Of course ... it could just be as simple as thermal imaging. Then again ...maybe not.
Joe, I really enjoy your blog, keep up the good work.
Dear Train Observer,
ReplyDeleteThe type of sensing equipment they put in the boxes has never b been divulged publicly and not to the abductees.
I agree doing your way would be the best solution.It seems these entities communicate through the mind. But doing something like that could open an organization to all kinds of lawsuits. It could end up being a nightmare. Another way would be to hypnotize the candidates and induce amnesia about the project. This could be done by post hypnotic suggestion. A word would be given to repeat right before bedtime that puts them in that state.
I do think you over estimate the ETs. They make big mistakes. People have woken up with another abductees' clothes on. This was a major mistake and there have been many instances like that. Roswell was a ET mistake, somehow.
I believe it is not that far fetch to think that for thousands of years it was so easy to fool the people that sometimes they fall back on old behavior. Arrogance has always been a part of intelligent minds.
But I am glad MUFON tried. I think if anything we can learn from this...and who knows what mistakes the ETs could have made.
Thanks for you observations they are right on. So keep them coming.
Also thank you for the kind words. As long as I have my health I will be a voice for the persecuted witnesses and experiencers to these phenomenon.
Joe Capp
UFOMM
NO ONE is willing to entertain the notion that... well... the evidence showed that there were no abductions going on with these subjects???
ReplyDeleteI can dig up the references, but I believe Mack engaged in his own experiments in which video cameras were set up to record these abductions. What happened? Well... they got tapes with things like the alleged abductee getting out of bed and turning off the recording VCR. Mack's conclusion? Alien mind control was making the abductees do this! (Pardon me while I hit my head on my desk). The other abductees came back with tales of nothing happening until they stayed at a relative's house 6 weeks later, they were only abducted when the tape ran out or got up to use the bathroom, etc., etc. In short, the original version of this project showed not only no evidence for abduction in the patients Mack thought were really abducted, but visual evidence of "abductees" attempting to tamper with the tape, pull a plug, etc. It also showed that Mack's identity is bound to his hypothesis, and even a 0% success rate will be spun into confirmation.
Given the track record of the previous experiment, the most likely conclusion for MUFON going numb is that they not only found no corrobatory data, they may even have evidence of attempts to tamper with their sensing equipment and are not publishing results for fear of harming their cause (of course, science shouldn't have causes, just test hypotheses).
Dear jgm,
ReplyDeleteIf you think MUFON would do that you don't know MUFON. If anything MUFON would come out and show how their objective investigation attained zero results and their publishing the result. They have done this many times to win browne points with mainstream scientist. Just recently in the MUFON journal they went down to Mexico to debunk some saucer daylight video. They also did an article challenging the famous Fish star map.
Now as far as videoing possible abductions and possible hoaxing.
First place putting a camera in a room where a superior intelligence comes to abduct people is absurd. It is the height of human arrogance to plan a series of projects to catch this phenomenon without any regard to the idea it may be very intelligence
I like John Mack but mainstream scientist do this all the time. National Discovery Science Institute is famous for treating this phenomenon as if it not intelligent, with poor results, I must add.
At least MUFON tried to treat the possibility of intelligence on the other side while planning this project.
The volunteers went to a great deal of trouble to set this up. I think we should let the data speak for itself.
Most abduction claims are not abductions. Some are good hoaxers looking for attention. But some core cases can not be explained by this. That is why I stress the selection process. They should have brought in the best - Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs. They should have picked from cases that had independent collaborating evidence that something is going on. From those cases they could have pooled who would participate and make their selection process. That is how I would have did this.
I believe there would always be problem, as Trained Observer commented; they may have the ability to read minds and know from the abducted what was planed.
I find no inconsistency when researchers treat possible aliens contact as if they are stupid and end up with no, or poor results. In fact it lends some credibility to the possibility they are treating us with the same disdain.
Trail and error is a part of most scientific research. If the best in the UFO community had the money to do this right I believe it would be done right.
Thanks, for your comments.
Joe
UFOMM
Non-Commercial Blog
Frankly, this says a whole lot about the state of UFO research, and MUFON in particular. Putting in politely, it doesn't reflect well on any organization do what MUFO has done so far. They started
ReplyDeletea scientific inquiry, or at least one using some sciene based investigative methods, and collect data. Despite all this effort they apparently had no plan ahead of time on how to process and analyze this data.
The excuse that they didn't realize what they would have is also absurd. They should have had a plan well in advance, and funding. Otherwise they are wasting everyone's time.
Standards, practices, and guidlines should always come before action. They dropped the ball big time. It makes MUFON look really bad, and it reflects poorly on the loosely organized UFO research community as a whole. Is it any wonder then that the media can get away with treating the whole subject like a joke?
Dear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteYou know I hope in the future the MUFON top brass starts to spend more time and money on proving UFOs are here and with entities than proving they have faked cases. We have enough people out there to do that already. I tried to donate money specifically to this project and what a headache that turned out to be. I gave up.
Thank You
Joe Capp
UFO Media Matters
I remember reading about the study or something similar that the previous poster refers to in his post. Something else to think about is the large number of closed circuit security cameras that proliferate society now. There seems to be one on every corner. At least here in the states there are hundreds along roadways and intersections. Why haven't we seen something on those? Its baffling. "Standards, practices, and guidlines should always come before action." Very true. Good science is hard to come by especially when conducted by non-professionals. Many people have a great misunderstanding of what science actually is and how tried and true the scientific method is when applied correctly. It really discourages me to hear people disparage science, scientists, or the scientific method and then turn around and endorse folk belief, pseudo-science, and superstition as a viable alternative. Having all that I still have to say I cannot discount the alien abduction phenomena as being 'non-existent'. Something is happening but we (the general public) don't know just what it is. Something happens to people that they cannot explain that greatly impacts their lives and those around them. Read 'Report on Communion' by Ed Conroy for an example of someone's experience on the periphery of the phenomena.
ReplyDeleteGive a listen to Dr. Karla Turner's Final Lecture at http://www.karlaturner.org/index.html
ReplyDeleteTurner's hypothesis (as I understand it) is that abduction experiences include illusionary or virtual reality scenarios which are functions of some sort of mind control used by whoever is carrying them out.
Dear T. O.
ReplyDeleteThe information is in the details from Betty and Barney Hill to the Allagash 4 and beyond they speak about the influence these entities had over their minds. I also have tried educate abduction spiritualist that they may be mesmerized by these entities intentionally and just to include that as a possibility in why they feel the way they do.
The interesting things about these entities is they know how to play all the right human cards from control over a person, to controlling scientific human scrutiny of their presence.
Where would our psychology be in a million years.
Thanks Again
Joe
ufomm
I recently had a rather unpleasant experience with MUFON and am wondering if anyone else has also. That is why I created this blog.
ReplyDeleteI was happy to find this blog, also.
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ReplyDeleteI don't know what others are experiencing etc with ETs, but all my ET experiences suggest one absolute. They are mind readers of me and I of them. So if I know something they know of it as well. If you put equipment in or near me, if I know about it, then so do they.
ReplyDeleteSorry I'm not buying the idea at all of being able to put monitoring equipment any where to catch ETs visiting. Unless the person your monitoring doesn't know anything either so as not to tip ET off mentally.
Dear Chester,
ReplyDeleteI think there is a chance that ETs will be detected. First in many reports we have ETs being caught off guard, so they are not the omnipotent being they like us to believe they are. They crashed didn't they? However I do take note of your point. The idea here is they finished the project why not look at the data.
Thank You For Your comment
Joe
UFOMM
Yes I also have had unpleasant, unprofessional dealings with MUFON as well. I had multiple sightings over a period of days. I reported them in full detail, times, places, direction, estimated Altitude and speed, plus full description of the objects. I had witnesses too. I got no response from MUFON for about two weeks or more. Then the MUFON state director called me. She put a message on my voice mail that was rude and demanding that I call her right away, now! You have to call me right now! Like I was in trouble or something. She also emailed me the same type of response. I called her a few times and I got no answer, left her a message. The next day she called me back. She started asking me why I was seeing so many UFOs and that she knew what was going on. Kept hinting there had to be a reason other than me going out side to watch the skies due to my first sighting. I find out from her that she never even had read any of my reports. None of them! She started telling I must be an abductee or contactee. They are purposesly visiting just you. Why do they want to visit you? You must have had this though out your childhood as well. I'm thinking hold on lady, first you never read any of my sighting reports and now your feeling in the blanks too, including my life story! I would try to explain to her the events, because she had not read even one of my reports. Anyway I would get part way through what I was trying to tell her and she would break in and keep trying to finish my story. In the end I just let her think what she wanted, which was far from the facts. She wanted me to join MUFON and be an investigator, she didn't try to encourage me, it was more of a demand. She also demanded that I write multiple short stories detailing parts and or time periods of my life! She wanted to publish them in her magazine! I don't have time for that, nor do I want my life's story made public. I just wanted to report a few UFOs for heaven sake! She also told me not to report any more sightings to MUFON, because it wasted too much of her valuable time! That if I reported on them she would have to investigate them. I was to report my sightings directly to her! She wanted to publish them in her personal magazine, not a MUFON magazine. She claimed sightings were not important, they were just appearances, displays. She wanted to get to the root of my visitations. She didn't care about pictures etc, that this was just a sighting, the visual part. So she labels me as an abuctee/contactee from childhood till current day! Just like that over the phone! So I'm ordered that I can only report sightings if I have any, just to her! Only the people that get her personal magazine will know of my sighting etc. It was for her personal gain! I of course didn't write any stories etc. She became pissed off and I got rude emails from her, asking where was my short stories I was suppose to write! That I wasted her time on the phone with her etc!!!! I never told her that I would do anything. In fact I told her I didn't want write anything etc. She was also very mad because I didn't join MUFON and be an investigator as well. I have also had other dealings with other state directors. In which I think for the most part were just debunkers or just didn't investigate the case at all. They would just write the case off as a natural object, balloon, star etc. That MUFON solves many cases by a star map! I read one case to where these two objects where moving ssw and the wind was blowing sse at just under ten miles per hour, this section director wrote the case off as balloons! Any way so I have seen both extremes by MUFON!
ReplyDeleteDear Chester,
ReplyDeleteI also had some problems with a MUFON investigator but they were so overworked in my state I could easily forgave them. The truth is in any organization you have the good and bad. There was another comment about a MUFON Director by an investigator who wouldn't said he wouldn't try anything different. The person you describe seemed really out there. Everything she did was against MUFON policy. I am sorry that happened to you. Most of MUFON is not like that. Some of MUFON's boots on the ground field investigators are the best you can get.
In the early days anyone who had multiple sightings were discourage from making it public. Now it is a matter of record.
Hang in there and if you need me for anything you know my email.
Joe
UFOMM