UFO ET And Christian Evangelicals

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Why am I writing about this at UFO Media Matters? These ultra-conservative Evangelicals have tables set at most of the UFO conferences with nice DVD which hawk their ideas about UFOs and ETS. They had a large presence at the Roswell Festival this year. They can be a very negative force to deal with and I am worried about the UFO conferences. They have money. The more money that comes in through these Christian grups , the more power they may yield. at the conferences. This is something we should be concerned with. Would Christian conferences allow Stanton Friedman to set up a table…don’t hold you breath. If you believe in eventual contact, than you might want to consider what these Christian groups would do if these beings were to make contact and land. It wouldn’t be ETs landing in their minds it would be evil Demons trying to destroy our world. Millions of these type Christian will be programmed into thinking that way. It is possible some of the more fanatical Evangelicals could be dangerous.


When you go to the conferences these Evangelicals will tell anyone who will listen the UFO-ET question is solved. The answer may not make sense but it is God’s answer and it doesn’t have to. These groups have every right say to write or say anything they want. I, also have that right. When they state they have the answers they can expect to be challenged,
For me there is nothing more dangerous than people who don’t have to think. The groups of people who have all major decisions settled for them. There is no gray area in their thinking because everything has been laid out for them. They don’t have to wrestle with moral dilemma because their morals are Gods morals. They have a scripture for everything and a solution for nothing.
I am big lover of Jesus. He took the Hebrew religion to a higher level. Jesus proposed that we were all God’s children. He never had to force his message; the masses were waiting for it. Jesus never got involved with the politics of Rome or Israel. He spent his time with the poor people and with the hypocrisy of the temples. Christians Evangelicals today wouldn’t be caught dead with some of the people Jesus loved and hung around with.
Jesus spoke about forgiveness all the time. He was against violence in any form even self defense. He admonished Peter for slashing his captors ear and healed him. Jesus also cautioned about money, and its power, admonishing his Apostles to take only what they needed for the day. Jesus spoke hundreds of times more about helping the needed and loving your neighbor than about all the nonsense of hell fire and torture. In fact the bible does not really support hell fire at all. The few references in scripture were related more to the then Jewish custom of throwing the dead bodies of criminals and blasphemers into a trench called “geenna” for burning. They were never alive. The term hell was adopted in it’s place and used in the New Testament to signify torture of the dead.

THE OLD ENGLISH “hell: denoted that which is covered (hidden or unseen). Consequently, it once served as a suitable translation of the Greek hades, which means “imperceptible” or “unseen.” In modern English, however, due to the corrupting influence of human tradition, “hell” has come to mean “the abode of the dead; the place of punishment after death [in which the dead are alive].” Consequently, since in modern English the notion represented by the term “hell” constitutes, to say the least, interpretation, not translation, it is unconscionable for modern translators to render either the Hebrew sheol or the Greek hades by this expression.
Yet it is worse still, whether in old English or modern English, to render the Greek tartarosas and especially the Greek geenna, also as “hell.” Such “translations” are not translations at all; they are but the product of circular reasoning and hoary tradition. Whatever one’s understanding may be concerning the matters to which these words make reference, as a translation of the Original, the rendering “hell,” in all cases, is wholly unjustifiable. Yet it is this very rendering, the single term, “hell,” for all these distinct words in the Original, which has spawned all the familiar talk concerning “hell” which prevails among “Bible-believing Christians” today.

http://www.concordant.org/expohtml/DeathAndJudgment/TheGehennaOfFire.html

The Hebrews never had a hell fire in the whole of the Old Testament and today’s Jews do not believe in “hell fire”.

No logical compassioned human being would torture a person forever for being a thief. Think about what the Christian scares you with “you will burn forever for cheating on you wife” Oops; wrong analogy my wife might agree.
This is the Jesus of the Evangelicals. Bottom line, I am suppose to come to Jesus or be tortured forever; nice God. This is not Jesus; this is fear mongering. It’s nice to throw Jesus’s name around and claim you belong to his club; but very few of us want to pay his dues. Although I have a great deal of respect for Jesus, I have very little respect for Christianity evangelicals. No longer is Jesus worried about the poor, he is now worried about the stock market. Other Christian churches hardly mention hell fire. But it is a main theme, in many evangelical churches, along with the end of the non-Christian world. Jesus no longer brings in the “sheep” through love. Now he forces them through war. Jesus would, of course, support big business and the Republican agenda. So their Jesus would be fighting democrats and arguing for less money when it comes to helping the poor.

Their “ideas” about UFOs- ET are as follows:
UFO and ETs are the “signs in the heaven” which were predicted at the end times in the Bible. They are all the result of demons. You see, it goes like this: Demons are trying to turn everyone away from God so one of the unique ways to do it is to make people think there are Extra-Terrestrials. If humans believe in ETs, we would no longer be the central reason for creation. Jesus sacrificed himself for all and that did not include anything but human beings. There are no ETs, period.

They have no problem quoting from some of the Great researchers in our field when it suites their agenda.

“Astronomer J. Alan Hynek and the late French physicist Jacques Vallee are perhaps the most respected UFO researchers in the world. Both are agnostics. No one can consider them Christians with a theological ax to grind. Both men have made what I consider to be very bold statements that clearly undergird the Christian position that spiritual entities are behind UFO phenomena. For example, Hynek said that UFOs cause physical effects "in the same way that a poltergeist can produce very real physical effects." Vallee said "The UFO phenomenon represents evidence for other dimensions beyond spacetime . . . It is a spiritual system that acts on humans and uses humans." Many prominent born-again Christian scholars such as David Allen Lewis have done research on UFO phenomena. It seems clear to them that demons are using UFOs to deceive millions and prepare them to embrace an occultic, 'New Age' type of faith. Some say that UFOs and the teachings that proceed from them are preparing the world to receive the coming antichrist.”
http://www.rb59.com/prophecy-news/2008/06/researchers-confirm-ets-demons.html

Hynek and Vallee honestly wrestled with the idea that UFO’s may not be technology; but both were researchers, and researchers are usually poor futurists unlike Arthur C. Clark. We know that Clark predicted this superstitious belief scenario if we met a sufficiently advanced technology.

The Christian state their interpretation of the bible is the correct interpretation and it has comes from God through the bible. Who would think, that out of the thousands of interpretations of the bible, the Christian ultra conservative Evangelicals were the only ones that got it right. For me their earth centric insanity doesn’t make sense. I am not going to debate if ETs are demons because no matter what I say these Evangelists have a higher power solution. A demon can do most anything, so no matter what I may argue- the demons ETs have all the bases covered:

Landing traces case studies by a protégée of Hynek Ted Phyllips for 40 years: demons

Radiation Traces: demons

All Fighter Pilot sightings: demons

Nuke Bases sightings: demons

Nuke shut downs: you guessed it demons

When and if they make contact: demons

(By the way all the paranormal stuff: demons)

I will however debate their ridiculous stance that the universe was created just to show God’s glory to man. We have a universe, which, at this time, seems to house trillions of planets; millions of which we will probably never see. Water, methane and formaldehyde have, not only been found on Mars, but the planet seems to release plumes of these gases which suggest life. We have oceans on some moons in our solar systems. Scientist at one time would have thought that impossible. Over 250 planets have been discovered using a very time consuming “wobble method”. This method is unable to detect earth size planet but there is always new technology, thank God:

“DISCOVERY MISSION: KEPLER:
Launched on March 6, 2009, the scientific goal of the Kepler Mission is to explore the structure and diversity of planetary systems, with a special emphasis on the detection of Earth-size planets. It will survey the extended solar neighborhood to detect and characterize hundreds of terrestrial and larger planets in or near the "habitable zone," defined by scientists as the distance from a star where liquid water can exist on a planet's surface. The results will yield a broad understanding of planetary formation, the frequency of formation, the structure of individual planetary systems, and the generic characteristics of stars with terrestrial planets.”

This may settle the “other earth planets” for everyone except the extreme Christian right and some other dogmatic religions. There answer would be:
You see, Satan and his demons could be seducing these scientists into thinking they found other earth-like planets. Evidence makes no difference you see. Demons can create any false evidence they wish.
How does one argue with that?

This continuing theme of “we are right ” has been used by churches and played out throughout history with disastrous results. Our founding forefathers were wise enough to separate God from religion.

The Catholic Church has grown up and sees things differently than these Evangelicals. It seems to see the writing on the wall when it comes to the possibility of ETs. The Church knows that soon, with the advancement of technology the chances of finding life, even intelligent life in space, are good. The Pope has allowed a strong public statement to be made about the possibility of ETs without challenge:

Rev. Funes Vatican Observatory:
"Just as there is a multiplicity of creatures on earth, there can be other beings, even intelligent, created by God. This is not in contrast with our faith because we can't put limits on God's creative freedom. Funes sees no contradiction in believing in the existence of such beings and having faith in his God. He even speculates that a good name for them might be "brother extraterrestrial”.
http://aidanmaconachyblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/vatican-life-on-other-planets.html

So my UFO brothers and sisters: buyer beware. “In the box thinking” is everywhere- even at UFO conferences and UFO web pages. When you meet these “Christians” they will smile and speak softly but beware of those who have all the answers; especially evangelicals with their past track record.
I know what I have written may upset some people. Because I have no book to sell or anyone I am beholding to I can write what ever I want. I believe this subject needed to be written about and if people hate me it’s ok I love my enemies like I love myself.

How do I know all this? Jesus told me.

Joe Capp
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