tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post6776801186878962262..comments2008-07-18T16:13:57.988-04:00Comments on UFO Media Matters: The Last Scientist Part 2Joseph Capphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-28675978326954529062008-07-18T16:13:00.000-04:002008-07-18T16:13:00.000-04:00Very important points Bruce, and... How To Study ...Very important points Bruce, and... How To Study Them, is another very important ingrediant. Their may be egos on both sides.<BR/> <BR/>Thanks Bruce<BR/><BR/>Joe Capp<BR/>UFO Media MattersJoseph Capphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-87323504955864243302008-07-18T15:13:00.000-04:002008-07-18T15:13:00.000-04:00Yes there is a sort of proverbial underground stre...Yes there is a sort of proverbial underground stream of sightings that have passed under the general publics radar courtesy of infotainment bread and circuses, whose flow has increased...just the sheer number of sightings needs no further prod to have a reasonable man ask...what the devil is going on....but you know,denial and the near impossibility of capturing such a chimera does not discount the value of another statistical study...god knows some private funding is the only option...but then I ask myself who would lead it? A good question, eh? <BR/>As I said I think the major problem is that nearly every bit of funding is set toward reaching or achieving a product whether it is a drug, a weapon, a battery...all of these funnels lead to a technological monopoly on research...which is incredibly short sighted but not surprising. If someone saw this fellow dropping balls off the leaning tower these days they would call him a kook...where are the professional philosopher scientists of the same caliber as a Newton or a Galileo? I can count them on one hand and have plenty of fingers left. Telsa if he were alive would be out in the field trying to communicate with them and wouldn't give a damn what anyone thought...but where would his funding come from?...I really believe that there is an unofficial blacklist of projects of which UFOs rank at the top...Bruce Duensinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06770861553045757360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-80858479851158648852008-07-18T13:58:00.000-04:002008-07-18T13:58:00.000-04:00Thanks Bruce a compliment from you means so much t...Thanks Bruce a compliment from you means so much to me. <BR/><BR/>I think you will like my new post: "Missing Evidence UFO Style" While I was writing this piece I notice how Newhouse was angry because the government had splice 35 or more frames form the film he gave them when they finally returned them...which was a copy and inferior(lost in a fire). <BR/>The closes shots which would have proven they were not birds were gone. Newhouse was not some conspiracy guy he was a Lt. Navy Photographer on leave with his family when it happened. Then I remember some other very documented case of the verifiable material gone or altered I started to do a Google search and finally came across a database. Wow I was suppressed, but I know why it was downplayed even by the UFO researchers...when they mentioned it they were tag with "conspiracy theorist nut".<BR/> But when you look at all ten of these, and there are many more... allot of stuff is gone...and in one case, when a series of close up photos of a flying saucer were taking by "gov. Men" that did turn up 30 years later(in Pristine Condition) it revealed under re-analysis some startling new evidence. NASA also is guilty as my second part demonstrates. <BR/><BR/>And we are not so far away as you think as I believe in the metaphysical but I think in flesh and blood also. However if you really think about it do we evolve even past that stage of physical bodies. There may be some very old ones here, old entities...different then the younger species that are here. I have often wonder why they don't just blow each other up, what keeps them from a "winner take all mentality". We may all be right in a way. There is some of higher calling here... a no interference rule applied by something... at least so far. <BR/><BR/>Which bring me to this.<BR/>There is something tremendous about the shear amount of the UFO sightings. Honestly Bruce I have never read about flaps like this all over the world. It is the longest flap I can remember.I believe because of global warming they are going to make contact. By the way I don't have a shred of evidence to prove that belief.<BR/><BR/>I am very proud of what MUFON accomplished on the Stephenville Tx UFO reports. What a smart move getting the RADAR tapes and going over them so quickly. It did prove conclusively the witnesses were telling the truth and highly accurate about what they described. <BR/>You won't see any apologies on this from the debunkers who had made many disparaging remarks on TV about the ability of the witnesses and marginalized credibility on this case as the do every UFO case, <BR/><BR/>Thanks <BR/>Joe Capp<BR/>UFO Media MattersJoseph Capphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-33156424239420501852008-07-18T13:07:00.000-04:002008-07-18T13:07:00.000-04:00An excellent piece which I read more than once. It...An excellent piece which I read more than once. It triggered a lot of associations, the surprising number of suicides and strange deaths of those involved in the field. Another reaction I had was just how much momentum was lost..when Vallee, McDonald, Aimee and Hynek were either marginalized or simply passed away..I have been mulling this over as well..you know I think that at some point if you really examine this whole situation doesn't it seem as though it moved from a scientific movement to a counter-cultural one...involved in political..mystical...conspiracy facets that aren't scientific? It was if all this energy became a flowing rapids and had nowhere to go once the channeling of this interest lost its focus in these gentleman's efforts..<BR/>When you consider their enormous influence that still energizes the field today like a storage battery...they really injected a great deal of sober and sincere credibility. While I tend toward the metaphysical, I am really either naive or simply dumbfounded that no one picked up the torch...one wonders who, if anyone, did they mentor? Is the fact that they didn't.. the reason the fire died out? I don't know, I wasn't there but while it lasted.. that was one hell of a tag team...(sigh) <BR/>As you can see, your writing as always sends me off on a tear into many related areas...thanks for the poke in the ribs..I think we all need to be reminded of the once and future field of scientific curiosity outside of the utility of industrial or military applications...yes, it once did exist and a lot of young minds were stimulated by these fine gentlemen..theres no finer legacy or tribute than this for Mr McDonald and his peers...<BR/>Best Wishes<BR/>BruceBruce Duensinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06770861553045757360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-48756777985998970712008-07-14T20:20:00.000-04:002008-07-14T20:20:00.000-04:00Thank You so much. There is a position out there f...Thank You so much. There is a position out there for a person of science with courage and the right credentials. I give great applauses to what MUFON just did by getting the Radar tapes on Stephenville TX so quickly, brilliantly done. I hope there are top objective scientists left who give the Stephenville TX case a hard look. We have witnesses who's testimony held up and proved not only to be accurate but with the conformation of the radar tapes(and 700 hrs work) proved extremely accurate. A object going 1900 miles an hour with no transpoder was in the airspace at the time sighed by the different witnesseses who had reported it.<BR/><BR/>Joe<BR/>UFO Media MattersJoseph Capphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-55245696137112478692008-07-12T18:07:00.000-04:002008-07-12T18:07:00.000-04:00Joe--Excellent blog! One could argue that mainstr...Joe--Excellent blog! One could argue that mainstream scientific interest in UFO matters peaked during McDonald's time in the field. His audiences at the AIAA in 1967 and the Naval Ordnance Laboratory in 1968 were almost exclusively scientists and engineers, who respectfully listened while he spoke, making nary a peep. Who in ufology commands audiences like that nowadays?<BR/><BR/>Although scientific investigations of UFO events are made by such as MUFON, mainstream scientists long since decamped for seemingly more fruitful fields.--Rob SwiatekRob Swiateknoreply@blogger.com