tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post3266434640999508955..comments2024-02-16T04:16:01.502-05:00Comments on UFO Media Matters: UFO Pragmatism: Killing The MessengerJoseph Capphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-1381914469172092742010-10-13T17:08:00.407-04:002010-10-13T17:08:00.407-04:00What necessary phrase... super, remarkable ideaWhat necessary phrase... super, remarkable ideaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-83446923285879936972010-03-17T02:12:18.704-04:002010-03-17T02:12:18.704-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-28840006443201115832010-02-16T11:23:00.385-05:002010-02-16T11:23:00.385-05:00Dear Anonymous,
Thanks, you just made my day.
Joe...Dear Anonymous,<br />Thanks, you just made my day.<br /><br />Joe<br />UFOMMJoseph Capphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-78350085204486323812010-02-16T11:15:48.540-05:002010-02-16T11:15:48.540-05:00ufomedia.blogspot.com; You saved my day again.ufomedia.blogspot.com; You saved my day again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-88351609215950702072009-06-23T03:31:36.259-04:002009-06-23T03:31:36.259-04:00So, are the UFOs benevolent or malevolent? For tho...So, are the UFOs benevolent or malevolent? For those of you who believe in UFOs and have not yet thought about this, it is worth your while to do so now in the light of the following points. These points have been presented earlier and seem to point to the fact that the UFOs are not at all spacecrafts from other planets but that they are, as a matter of fact, evil spirits that can appear as humanoids and try to delude the mankind.<br /><br />http://koti.phnet.fi/elohim/What_Ufo%27s_areman with desirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13881690798999758579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-2529707348240147952009-06-18T13:31:12.120-04:002009-06-18T13:31:12.120-04:00Why do we keep actively or passively investing in ...<b>Why do we keep actively or passively investing in the culture of UFO witness devaluation?</b><br /><br />For the very same reason that 'we' disbelieve anyone who reports anything that is likely to put a dent in 'our' very limited comfort zones.<br /><br />Just ask anyone who's tried to report incest, rape, harassment, stalking, domestic violence, abuse as a child...and then institutional corruption, fraud, workplace bullying, racism, homophobia and so on ad nauseum. Literally ad nauseum for many whistleblowers and victims of crime and abuse.<br /><br /><br />'No, that doesn't happen here. You must have imagined it' is the overwhelming kneejerk reaction. <br /><br />This is why human beings are such a cancer on the earth. Egos, selfishness, NIMBYism, the inherent self-orientated callousness of the human species.<br /><br />One can only hope that our ET brethren do come and wipe this species off the face of this planet.<br /><br />Excellent points. You've revealed some key motivations in your exploration here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-7565190969568966672009-04-07T11:21:00.000-04:002009-04-07T11:21:00.000-04:00Dear Ruth,Thank you, a compliment is always welcom...Dear Ruth,<BR/>Thank you, a compliment is always welcome here. The Muffuns sound great also.<BR/>Joe Capp<BR/>UFO Media Matters<BR/>Non-Commercial BlogJoseph Capphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-53348558749802356502009-03-27T21:43:00.000-04:002009-03-27T21:43:00.000-04:00Tahnk You.It time all UfO researcher stop shooting...Tahnk You.<BR/>It time all UfO researcher stop shooting the innocent by-stander. We evenutally find the hoaxer, but I believe it is better for a few hoaxers to get away with it than one honest witness attacked.<BR/>Joe Capp<BR/>Non-Commercial Blog<BR/>UFO Media MattersJoseph Capphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-19415724391177816842009-03-27T21:37:00.000-04:002009-03-27T21:37:00.000-04:00Dear David,Anyone who come forward with their name...Dear David,<BR/>Anyone who come forward with their name and serial number up front and can help verify what thousands have witnessed and reported is very good news for me. This is the best chance we have had in decades.Obama seems to really believe what he is doing. Open government sound like a dream...we can make it happen.<BR/> Unlike what most of the people think I believe there are good people in the government who care and just don't know what side of the issue to support. I hope they support the people side they are what America is about. In time to stop the persecution of people because of that they see, and find out what these craft are really about. Thank you and thank Patrick for his service than and now.<BR/><BR/>Joseph Capp<BR/>UFO Media Matters<BR/>Non-Commercial BlogJoseph Capphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-25756427643974129862009-03-27T20:08:00.000-04:002009-03-27T20:08:00.000-04:00Dear Bruce,Excellent Point, why UfO witnesses who...Dear Bruce,<BR/>Excellent Point, why UfO witnesses who may claim a very strange encounter must be liars in their book saddens me. Some of the people who report this look as if they are as far away from being a hoaxer as possible. They don't fit the profile before during and after.<BR/>But deep down we all know what the main problem is.. and the fear... is if just one of these witnesses is proved right the debunkers theme and game is over.<BR/>I wish more in dept investigation was done on the ground on these sensational cases.... I know of one and I will post about the evidence because he was also trashed.<BR/>Thanks Bruce <BR/>Joe Capp<BR/>UFO Media Matters<BR/>Non-Commercial BlogJoseph Capphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-1109352994904802892009-03-27T19:43:00.000-04:002009-03-27T19:43:00.000-04:00Dear RRR Group,That makes you a hypocrite. You did...Dear RRR Group,<BR/>That makes you a hypocrite. You did exactly what you accuse true UFO believers of doing. You accepted a photograph and put it out there as possible evidence without any proof that it was real. You accepted this photo and ran with it at a time when it is so easy to do this, that even a moderate level user of Photoshop could accomplish that photo. So you attack the Trents who were well like in their community, believe me I am sure the debunkers of the day were working overtime just like you some 30+ years later to find some dirt on this family and public with it. It makes you a true believer and not objective.<BR/> So I ask people out there on the other side of this issue, those with a sense of fair play, is this the type of emotional science you want put out there as an augment against the UFO question. Is that how you are going to protect the gullible and convert the believer.<BR/>What was so bad about what you did was how it was directed at ...the bottom line here is the only under dog in this issue is and was the Trents... and I am proud i wrote to you about your tactics... it was one of my better moments. <BR/>I also think deep down you a good guy but you are just too paranoid about people and don't have the faintest idea of why when you see a UFO you life is changed. I'm also sorry you don't have neighbors like I have, you might have trusted more. <BR/><BR/>Joe Capp<BR/>UFO Media Matters<BR/>Non-Commercial BlogJoseph Capphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-55453548264333973812009-03-27T12:34:00.000-04:002009-03-27T12:34:00.000-04:00Joseph,This weekend, we'll be making history regar...Joseph,<BR/><BR/>This weekend, we'll be making history regarding UFO witnesses. Here's the relevant paragraph from our press release today:<BR/><BR/>--------------<BR/><BR/>On this week’s episode, airing Sunday evening, March 29, 2009, The Paracast, widely recognized as “the gold standard of paranormal radio,” features exclusive reports on UFO sightings direct from veteran military witnesses.<BR/><BR/>Longtime UFO and Nuclear site researcher Robert Hastings has worked with The Paracast to bring two new military witnesses forward to describe – for the very first time publicly – their experiences with UFOs sighted over sensitive nuclear missile launch sites. Bruce Fenstermacher was a Minuteman III combat crew commander at FE Warren Air Force Base in 1976 when his experience occurred, while Patrick McDonough was a Chief of Party for the Field Survey Team of the 1381st Geodetic Survey Squadron, and was at Malmstrom AFB when his encounter — a sighting of a UFO at very close range, along with two other witnesses — occurred in 1966. More details surrounding both witnesses will be available at the Paracast forums on Sunday, March 29, 2009, when the episode airs. Also joining the show will be Captain Robert Salas, who will be discussing his well-known encounter at Malmstrom AFB in 1967, where a UFO apparently disabled the targeting computers on multiple Minuteman ICBMs while he was a Deputy Missile Combat Crew Commander at the facility. Robert Hastings rounds out the panel as a special guest co-host for the episode.David Biednyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07684470018521439538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-35752003399947120832009-03-27T12:22:00.000-04:002009-03-27T12:22:00.000-04:00Joesph,In a short essay I compared my own prepared...Joesph,<BR/><BR/>In a short essay I compared my own preparedness toward the paranormal to the comedy of Buster Keaton, the art of the improvised, acting non plussed when I discover my zipper is open. <BR/><BR/>We all try to maintain our orientation toward the world as others have defined it when this nice neat and orderly universe is cracked, broken and suddenly chaotic because the world paradigm keeps running on autopilot..."Oh, that orange elephant? Its the exception that must be explained by the other 99% of reports that were hoaxes, frauds and dementia. We do know it happens but we do not know how, therefore it is not a valid observation because it cannot be measured...therefore it does not exist" <BR/><BR/>I had a video posted where a psychiatrist in commenting on paranormal events considered this "a weak rationalization." <BR/><BR/>He observed that he did not know how a particular horse won a race but he knew that it did, and he did not know how a patient arrived in his office but he knew he was there by talking to him. <BR/><BR/>So if we say these witnesses observations do not exist because we cannot explain them, or we cannot measure them, therefore they are all frauds, etc...What if we ran intelligence operations in the same manner, or psychiatric treatment, or the observation of black holes?<BR/><BR/>Great post.<BR/><BR/>Best Wishes<BR/>BruceBruce Duensinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06770861553045757360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-40851275086343643582009-03-27T11:37:00.000-04:002009-03-27T11:37:00.000-04:00JC:The Trent photo?Yu mean the so-called "missing"...JC:<BR/><BR/>The Trent photo?<BR/><BR/>Yu mean the so-called "missing" Trent photo which was passed on to us, and which we still believe has some connection to the Trent hoax.<BR/><BR/>RRRRRGrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04875523970644487204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-57808633497077719592009-03-27T10:54:00.000-04:002009-03-27T10:54:00.000-04:00May I add my own voice to this debate I personall...May I add my own voice to this debate I personally think that the points raised in this article are a light of common sense in the Ufology phenomenon I totally agree with you Joe and may I add my own personal thanks to you for your support of the witnesses <BR/>flyboysg1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-36540415529837053612009-03-27T10:21:00.000-04:002009-03-27T10:21:00.000-04:00Yes we have, but I have never been intentionally ...Yes we have, but I have never been intentionally dishonest and you were with that Trent Photo fiasco. They were witnesses who had no axes to grind.. and are smart enough to have known that, unless you have never taken any psychology courses. but you knew they were easy targets. Sir you are dishonest, although even dishonest people can some times do things good things, when push comes to shove your type will always revert back on dishonesty to win an argument.<BR/>Joe Capp<BR/>UFO Media MattersJoseph Capphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-64085100004575943042009-03-27T09:37:00.000-04:002009-03-27T09:37:00.000-04:00Joe,We disagree with your assessments about UFO wi...Joe,<BR/><BR/>We disagree with your assessments about UFO witnesses, as you know, and have dealt with this at our UFO Iconoclasts and Provocateurs<BR/>blogs:<BR/><BR/>http://ufocon.blogspot.com<BR/><BR/>http://ufoprovo.blogspot.com<BR/><BR/>But you are a wonderful, although wrong, advocate for all those maligned UFO witnesses.<BR/><BR/>RRRRRGrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04875523970644487204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-44461646741850908442009-03-26T17:15:00.000-04:002009-03-26T17:15:00.000-04:00Thank You so much for your responce it felt right ...Thank You so much for your responce it felt right when I wrote it.<BR/><BR/>This shoot, and ask questions later, attitude is extremely insensitive. The attitude of we must prove these sensational cases wrong so we can gain credibility has not worked in sixty years. <BR/>Just now, a person claiming to be an O'Hare witnesses put a up a cell phone clip of the "craft" on You Tube Anonymously.<BR/><BR/> Instead of trying to engage this person to come forward he was attacked by a MUFON Director. I don't know if this person is a fake but I can tell you one thing I understand why he/she doesn't want to come forward. One of the arguments made by this MUFON director was how it was shot at an "impossible angles...did he ever think it may have been shot from a cockpit? In fact that is what it looks like.<BR/><BR/>Reading these Knee jerk reaction in a public forum by these UFO researchers so the can appear objective is getting tiresome to me... it is shot sighted to say the least and can distort good careers at it's worst. <BR/><BR/>And yet you will hear thems shout how this helps UFOs credibility. <BR/><BR/>It's now been over Sixty Years of research on this subject by the "skeptical Objective UFO researchers has these researchers gained credibility from the mainstream... do they hold any power....<BR/>The people who really lose money and power are the Witnesses who step into the limelight...people like Edgar Michael and Gorden Cooper.<BR/> The only credibility given to this subject, has been and always will be through the credible UFO experiencer, however, what they see is not any different than what the farmer, the bike repair person or the 7-11 clerk sees and reports. All of these courageous UFO witnesses have one thing in common thought they have very few friends sadly to say on both side of the isle <BR/><BR/>Joe Capp<BR/>UFO Media MattersJoseph Capphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-46135839582865990892009-03-26T16:31:00.000-04:002009-03-26T16:31:00.000-04:00Excellent post,just excellent.You made some very v...Excellent post,just excellent.You made some very valid points.I totally agree.Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07259525616273468659noreply@blogger.com