tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post3097940732211498791..comments2008-06-16T22:46:17.933-04:00Comments on UFO Media Matters: Who’s Really Getting Hoaxed? Part 2Joseph Capphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-70558885289900921812008-06-16T22:46:00.000-04:002008-06-16T22:46:00.000-04:00I will, but I do not do guilt by association. I ha...I will, but I do not do guilt by association. I have heard from some of my friends who went to the presentation and they were impressed they are scientist so I will wait.<BR/>Joe CaPP<BR/>UFO Media MattersJoseph Capphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-75081132132526451782008-06-16T20:26:00.000-04:002008-06-16T20:26:00.000-04:00Joseph,I suggest you listen to The Paracast episod...Joseph,<BR/><BR/>I suggest you listen to The Paracast episode from last week, we've discovered that there are people pulling the strings behind the curtain, and their motives have precious little to do with anything regarding UFOs or the like. It's 99% that Romanek is making the whole thing up. As you already know, I'm not someone looking to debunk the UFO phenomenon, as I'm a witness myself. I AM interested in separating the genuine cases from the crap, and the fact that Romanek is surrounded by crap should raise some flags.David Biednyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07684470018521439538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-46750904990713405562008-06-16T12:36:00.000-04:002008-06-16T12:36:00.000-04:00Dear David,Thank You. I didn't hear your Podcast....Dear David,<BR/>Thank You. <BR/>I didn't hear your Podcast. It may be that this case has no merits. But witness behavior is not a tell all. We may all act a little erractic when that is a part of our lives. I want to examine all the evidence. <BR/><BR/>I know some witnesses are not sure themselves what is happening... that can be interpreted in all kinds of ways. <BR/>Travis Walton action were considered erratic. The mental health people called in got him drunk. The UFO org. gave him a Lie detector test right after the abduction when the realizations was just sinking in. People don't treat witnesses like people and those that do seem to confuse the issue more. And who do we jump on the witnesses... sometimes for no other reason than they are reporting on something that conflicts with a theory one might be passionate be for.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Joseph Capp<BR/>UFO Media Matters<BR/>Non-Commercial BlogJoseph Capphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-36185307360582750792008-06-16T12:06:00.000-04:002008-06-16T12:06:00.000-04:00Joseph,On a recent episode of The Paracast, we spo...Joseph,<BR/><BR/>On a recent episode of The Paracast, we spoke to Romanek, who claimed that he had no knowledge of Peckman's Metatron Harminozer. You can also hear about my conversations with some of the other behind-the-scenes players in the Romaneck situation, Nancy Talbot (of BLT Research) and a person named Clay Roberts, who is the key person keeping Romanek's hands tied. For my money, I don't think there's anything credible about Romanek's claims, as he doesn't seem capable of coughing up any actual evidence, and the folks who have glommed onto him make the whole situation even murkier.David Biednyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07684470018521439538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-15787209535923125772008-06-13T22:41:00.000-04:002008-06-13T22:41:00.000-04:00Dear Bob,Your right it is so simple. Now, if you w...Dear Bob,<BR/>Your right it is so simple. Now, if you want to have a movement do what Kean & Fox did in November hold a press conference and present your best evidence(pilots from 7 countries) period. I think they should do it again with other well documented witnesses, say another press conference. <BR/>Thank Bob<BR/>Joseph CappJoseph Capphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-71180267037757169822008-06-13T20:07:00.000-04:002008-06-13T20:07:00.000-04:00Very fine thinking. Only an unbiased approach to a...Very fine thinking. Only an unbiased approach to a level-headed search for the truth will bring us to some resolution of this mystery. The genuine witnesses will be served best by separating the true wheat from the chaff without sensationalism based on greed.Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-43860706325455281832008-06-12T08:44:00.000-04:002008-06-12T08:44:00.000-04:00I agree totally. But what are wild stories now?. T...I agree totally. But what are wild stories now?. There are people all over who are having multiple contacts and abductions. From what I understand the video was a very small piece of the evidence amased over one or two years in this case. Is is possible in anyones mind out there that the entities could be doing their own disinformation campagn as they abduct these people. Could this be a type of conditioning used to see what we do. The answers are out there but wild stories are part of starnge and well documented cases in UFO history and may just be a part of our visitors keeping control of the belief factor. I don't know if they are ETs but whatever they are they seem to want confuse us. Stan may be reporting a wild story that really happened. I do agree the end result must be based on all the evidence. But when you go public you should present your case with the best evidence possible. What we have here in plain english is bad marketing, which seems to be the hallmark of the UFO community.<BR/><BR/>Thank You<BR/>Joe Capp<BR/>UFO Media MatterJoseph Capphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-8905505429049861962008-06-12T07:21:00.000-04:002008-06-12T07:21:00.000-04:00Hi Joseph,I agree completely that we should preser...Hi Joseph,<BR/><BR/>I agree completely that we should preserve witnesses, even if we shouldn't assume they are telling the truth. They may not be telling the truth, but they may not be lying either. They may just be honestly mistaken, or even deceived.<BR/><BR/>In this particular case, though, Romanek himself has been making many wild claims, and the video he presents is very, very probably either the real thing or a hoax. The stakes are high.<BR/><BR/>In the end, though, the main point here is that witnesses that present such extraordinary evidence will just have to live with the fact there will be suggestions that they hoaxed it. <BR/><BR/>In science, contrary to a trial, the priority is NOT on not condemining an innocent man, but on exhausting the evidence. Until a resonable doubt remains, the evidence is false.<BR/><BR/>But, again, we must have some common sense and try to avoid accusing or insinuating hoax whenever possible. People are often very honest, and there's usually no need to embarass them.<BR/><BR/>Romanek's case unfortunately doesn't allow us that. His video is false until proven authentic, and it's not very plausible that it's a honest mistake. It's either the real thing, or _someone_ hoaxed it.Kentaro Morinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-52274501548741839062008-06-11T14:32:00.000-04:002008-06-11T14:32:00.000-04:00Dear Andy, Thanks, sometimes a person needs to h...Dear Andy, Thanks, sometimes a person needs to hear that. The first part which clearly shows three examples of debunkers trying to hoax evidence to discredit UFO Witnesses points the need to respect and be careful not to prejudge the UFO Witnesses... in other words support them till all the evidence is in.<BR/><BR/>Thanks Again <BR/>Joe Capp<BR/>UFO Media Matters<BR/>Non-Commercial Blog<BR/><BR/>http://ufomedia.blogspot.com/2008/06/whos-really-getting-hoaxed-part-1.htmlJoseph Capphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12428219762980782866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624008755912934271.post-59111143481175242042008-06-11T13:53:00.000-04:002008-06-11T13:53:00.000-04:00Hey Joe...great work as always.Do you have a link ...Hey Joe...great work as always.<BR/><BR/>Do you have a link for part one?<BR/><BR/>I can't find it<BR/><BR/>Andymurnuthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01879178148236877467noreply@blogger.com