UFOs…What Are They Seeing!

"There are more things in heaven and earth" Shakespeare

”I believe in UFOs but it doesn’t mean they are ETs”
What are we seeing? I hear all this nonsense about lights or anomalistic phenomenon or mistaken black projects.
I still ask what are we seeing?
What was the police officer Lenny Zamora seeing when he witnessed little people around an egg-like craft before they noticed him and darted behind the craft which quickly flew away? Why are these same small type creatures being seen all over the world even now? What are they seeing?
http://www.alien-ufos.com/Zamora-UFO-incident-1964-t23792.html

What are they seeing when the Military Police spot a classic UFO and then the missile silos shut down? What… a natural phenomenon?
Is it are own Black Projects shutting down our own warheads?
http://www.cufon.org/cufon/malmstrom/malm1.htm

What are people experiencing in their bedrooms when they wake up with marks and bruises and remember being visited by small beings who do experiments on them in UFOs? Are we talking ghosts or nightmares or even sleep paralysis? Why are they so similar if not directed by some force…and what is that force, if not ETs?


What flies over Washington DC and when fighters are scrambled, take off quickly and when the jets land, they fly back into the protected airspace…several times playing cat and mouse games? Are we talking temperature inversion, atmospherics anomaly or what? http://www.ufologie.net/htm/usa1952.htm

What was filmed shooting down a launched missile the very first time a long range camera was used? Would you bet the future of our species on chaff or collective conscious? If someone shot at your car would you think intelligence or anomaly?
What is witnessed landing and then taking off, yet is so polluting to our soil that after thirty years of testing that soil still can’t hold water? Are we talking the trickster here or a fairy ring?
http://www.theufochronicles.com/2008/08/reporter-duped-by-ufo-debunkers.html

We have got to start to put this together in our minds. We continue to write as if there were no detailed history of UFO cases from all over the world. We act as if within those reports don’t include a large body evidence by credible witnesses describing little creatures that don’t look human .
If this is not technology then what is it? For decades we have been recording a presence all over the world with our modern instruments… and while we debate what that presence could be, IT has behaved awfully like a strategic intelligence conveying powerful, yet non-verbal, messages. I think many in the military have understood completely what those messages are: they are from a technological intelligence.

What are children seeing? What did that whole class of children in South Africa see? These children had a no nonsense Principal, who, by all descriptions of his personality would have thoroughly punished the children if there was even a hint of a hoax. What was the landed craft and the small creatures, if not ETs? Why did those entities react as if they knew they were being watched? Why are those same young children, now grown up, still sticking to what they reported as real? Could it have been mass illusion or imaginations?
http://www.ufoevidence.org/Cases/case127.htm
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I hear all this nonsense thrown out by respectable skeptics and UFO researchers: “Little known rare natural phenomenon”
What rare phenomenon evades jets? Why is it that in 99% percent of the accounts these flying UFOs evade our best fighter jets and when they can’t, there is hell to pay?
This smacks of intelligence and secrecy. What does that imply but an intelligent technology?

Jeff Willes UFO Over Phoenix:



It is true some questions are hard to answer but that doesn’t negate what is being experienced. Many of those same questions could be answered if we understood the motives of these “ETs”.
Over and over again, we hear intelligent people say these experiences are not ET related. Are they saying that we have a clandestine, well-trained military squad of very small people piloting these black projects? Does that make sense?
Vertically challenged people riding and piloting these above top secret objects…even to this day? It is funny we never had one of these small people come forward…none of them have integrity?
This is, to me, a filtering of the reported cases to fit an agenda. I know that there are questions which are hard to answer. I spent some time at John Jay college, which specializes in criminal investigation. I met many a police officer there. I remember talking to some of them about different cases. What I remember is sometimes you could not make heads or tales out of a case until you learned the motive. Once the motive was found the loose ends of the case, which seem unexplainable at first, finally made sense. Most of us have read good murder mysteries when an almost insurmountable confusing case is neatly tied up in the end when the motive is revealed.

We do not know the motives of these ETS are and of course it doesn’t fall into place. It may be many motives or different motives for different races. We can surmise they don’t want to be a public certainty but they do not want to be unknown. Are we saying as humans we can’t write any explainable intelligent motive behind that behavior? We know sometimes they appear in strange and confusing ways, seemingly not making sense. Just because something may appear not to make sense, doesn’t mean it can’t make sense.
To say it is a “far cry” or a “real stretch” for any informed person to conclude that the predominant model to explain UFOs and their occupants is indeed Extra-Terrestrial is the real nonsense.

Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

Above Bluebook Conclusion Cips

"I kissed goodbye the howling beast on the borderline which separated you from me":Dylan

Let no one ever say to you again… “there was no government conspiracy on UFOs ”… for not only do we have the recovered police files… but the ghosts of the wronged police officers who shout in defiance… there was.

There are real people behind these UFOs report… good people who have lives… wives… children. It is always sad, for me, when UFO witnesses are brought under ridicule and permanently smeared. But to have police officers’ careers destroyed for fulfilling their duties… because they reported a UFO Craft… and to have that done by our government… it kind of makes me feel ill and angry inside. When you look historically at how our government orchestrated the charge of ridicule worldwide against anyone who cried UFO cover-up the damage done to the UFO witness community seem even more despicable.

I wonder if those in our government employ who were responsible for wrecking the careers and lives of these Sheriffs, can say it was worth it…I hope they can sleep well.

Dedicated To Deputies Dale Spaur and William Neff
Michel Nelson Conclusion Clips Six and Seven:






Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

Above Bluebook: UFO Government Conspiracy

Updates: Chucks Articfacts, Night Vision Scope Test

“It was in another lifetime…. full of toil and blood…. where darkness was a virtue… and the road was full of mud” Dylan

There was a clandestine government body unknown to Project Bluebook that investigated UFOs.
Notice, no question marks here.

I believe this is fact. The proof is below:
Mike Nelson: Protage Ohio UFO Venus Case:(for info)
http://ufomedia.blogspot.com/2007/12/when-venus-turned-out-to-be-ufo.html
Dedicated To Deputies Dale Spaur, William Neff and Mike Nelson













Many of you may not know Arthur Godfrey: he was a TV host in the fifties similar to Letterman and the rest. He was also a pilot who had witnessed a UFO. He mentioned it a few times over the years. On one of his shows, he interviewed Dorothy Kilgallen, a syndicated columnist. A private “source” and rather important person, as I remember, had reported to her a UFO experience. The male witness was on a dark deserted road near his car and noticed this bright disk coming toward him above the treetops. The disk made a turn and followed along a cut off dirt road. He was totally in shock but… what happened next shocked him even more. He watched as a dark “official looking” car with what looked like a radar dish, slowly pulled up. The car’s dish rotated toward the direction the UFO had taken, pointed right where the UFO had just traveled, then slowly took turned off down the same road.


Many debunkers and UFO skeptics claim the government wanted to be as far away from the nonsense of UFOs investigations as possible. Project Bluebook was a compromise to get people off the government’s back and the UFO subject out of their hair for good. John Alexander reinforces this idea more than anyone I know. John Alexander at the SSE conference spoke forcefully about his inside military contacts and how they would have told him about anything such as the aforementioned secret agency.
John, take a back seat…. Project Bluebook didn’t even know.
Mike Nelson reinforces what we have been hearing about all along. A powerful ultra-secret government authorized agency not only investigated UFOs, they also monitored them. They kept this secret from people with very high clearances.
Sometimes a Conspiracy is really a Conspiracy and you don’t need a theorist to figure it out.

Update Chuck’s Artifacts: A scientist will look at the material. He actually jumped at the chance. He agreed to do it freely but anonymously. We will have the test results and when we do we will post them.

Update On UFO (Night Vision Scope) : A couple friends and I purchased a level 3 night vision scope. My friend had been out with the scope for two weeks and he saw nothing. My thinking was maybe ETs were not visiting his state anymore. We had ordered a 3X zoom lens for it and it arrived two night ago. He took it out one night and called me up reporting what a difference it was using the zoom lens:
“ Joe you can see tons of stars now”.
So he took it out last night for a real run and here is his email to me.

“I was out with my son **** and his friend tonight. We saw no less than 6 moving objects in about 30 minutes. One raced across the sky and then stopped for about 5-10 seconds. I never took my eyes off of it. It then reversed direction and then went back the way it came”


For two weeks all he was seeing was satellites…but now he sees the visitors. Welcome to the new world Of UFO spotting.

Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

UFO Millionaires

What do the debunkers really think of our UFO organizations, researchers and witnesses? Come with me now as we journey into the collective mnd of the debunkers…get ready it will scare you. Yes I can mind read.

At the UFO conferences you can’t but help but see those rich leaches.
First thing I’ll bet Stanton Friedman (Top UFO researcher) will drives up in his red Maserati. He’ll park it next to James Dolan,(UFO Security Sate)…who of course has to have the top of the line Hummer.
Jamie Maussan. (UFO Mexican and all around bad guy) when he arrives in his private helicopter, all hell breaks lose as they get out of his way. No shame that man.
Cary & Schmitt of …“A Witness To Roswell” book fame… I would know their limousine anywhere in the world… with its prominent gold Gray ET ornament… staring out on the hood of their black stretch like an Oscar from outer space…sick.
Tim Good…you will never be able to follow that money… he keeps his wampum well hidden of course, like the good Brit he is.

That Tim Phillips fellow, famous on the ground UFO researcher,….don’t let that earthy down home look fool you man… he makes tons of gold from MUFON lectures.

Past and present UFO research organizations….money bags all of them.

Major Keyhole, war hero… Head of NICAP… funneled millions of support money to his bank account. . It was so lucrative even an ex- CIA chief joined NICAP to get a piece of the action. Then, of course, being CIA he had Keyhole fired, and faked bankruptcy. Keyhole didn’t really mind… he had millions.

MUFON should be really known as MMMM. “Money, Money, Money, Money”
These people received bigger donations than Fanny May …. The last director of MUFON…it is rumored… and please keep this quiet… lost tons ofmoney with Bernard …(Yes, that Bernard).

UFO Conferences rake in the bucks and they know it.
They spread rumors like the one about Steven Bassett losing 50 grand after the first UFO X Conference... don’t believe a word of it… you should see his new house in Boca. Or the many rumors of “International UFO Congress” going through financial difficulties over the years… don’t believe it… they have two Swiss bank accounts.
UFO Witnesses of course they been in on the action, tens of millions of dollars worth.


Betty and Barney Hill, the famous abduction couple… they had a small house in New Hampshire…after the big book deals sure, they kept their small house, but it was a front for tax purposes…think private island… and then you’d be closer to the real ball park of what they made.
That other small town family, the “Trents”, … farmers who faked three photos of flying saucers. They didn’t mind the calls at all hours of the night, the threats and accusations, because their future retirement look very rosy…big cash cow those photos.

Newhouse would have struck it rich, but the original faked video was “lost” by the Air Force… too bad; who knows how much he would have made?

Also, Dr Edgar Mitchell, famous moon walking astronaut… moon… schmoon.. he didn’t cares once he looked over the UFO possibilities. Mitchell was smart to give up all that credibility for the well known big paycheck in the UFO community… the one that would make a Pepsi contract laughable by comparison.

This goes for that other money hungry astronaut, “hero” Gordon Cooper, always looking for the limelight at the UN…who knows what residuals he received for that public grandstanding.

Now kiddies I bring you back to the real world, the world,…sadly, the debunkers will never know.

The way to any dehumanize any group of people of people is to stereotype them.

This has been done to many in our midst by debunkers and over zealous researchers.

On the web, whenever any witness or researcher presents startling evidence, both the researchers, and the witnesses, are accused of making money.

There is money around but not much of it. UFO Conferences just get by; researchers make a living… but not one UFO researcher has made the “big bucks”. I’ve seen some high profile witness cases showcase at a UFO conference. What does that mean as far as the money compinsaton… travel expenses, hotel expenses and a conference pass that’s all folks. These conferences do not make enough to do more than that.
Sometimes witnesses, on their own copyright a video or photo. The researchers may have to pay to use the copyrighted evidence. Many times this can put a dark cloud over the whole case, even though the witness and the supporting evidence may be real.
Many UFO organizations like MUFON will not pay for witness reports or supporting evidence. I don’t know which UFO researchers follow a simular policy, but I would bet many.
Above all the money attacks on Jamie Maussan are a disgrace. He could have had a more lucrative and peaceful lifestyle by avoiding the UFO subject entirely.
Here are his credentials:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Maussan
Jamie has done a great deal of good in his country for the environment and the people.

“1993/1994 Received the prize The Gold Palms of the national circle of journalists.”

“1998 Received the recognition of the world-wide organization of the health for the program Third Millennium by its contribution to the promotion of the health.”

The only person who made any real money from the UFO subject was Colonel Philip Corso “The Day After Roswell” and Whitney Strieber’s “Communion”
Corspo’s son and Corpso’s co-writer got, got most of that money, there is a special place in here for people like that… and then did a number on Corpos’s credibility.
Whitney… he didn’t need Communion to make money and it certainly did hurt his credibility among many mainstream readers.

Video Clip - UFOs Motherships:
Grass Roots Researchers: Luis Vásquez Coronel Piura Peru

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Ufo 2 was caught on November 25th, in Chulucanas, we were on the top of Horquetudo Hill, it was at the sunset. The ufo was behind Vicus Hill, over a dessert land that ,backwards, take to the spot where Proyecto Ufo caught a similar ufo. It proves it is a route.
Ufo 6 was caught in November too, it was a trip before the first I detailed. We were on the top of Horquetudo Hill, and I and the cameraman had to go down some meters, Horquetudo Hill is about 380 meters high, and the sphere was in the middle of the forest, next to Piura " La Vieja" town. It was after midnigth.
All of this was caught before you sent the camera. The images I got with the camera, I hope I will send this weekend.

The only real money that has been made in the UFO community is in the heads of the debunkers and their conformist thinking groupies.

Joe Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

UFOS: The Galileo Factor

"I've been doublcrossed now for the very lost time and now I am finally free!" Dylan


A significantly advanced ET technology would look like magic… but would they act like magic...intentionally?

You know what really p***es me off?

When self-righteous scientists and debunkers claim that, if they had a chance to see some quote real, unquote, evidence on UFOs, they would be fighting each other in their race to get the first look.

But the truth is, they don’t want to see.

The righteous debunkers and scientists are just like the Dark Ages clergy who were confronted by Galileo. All the outraged Church’s agents of the Dark Ages had to do was look and they would see. But to those True Believers, no matter what the sky showed them, the universe must be literally what their one-track religion said it should be, and that was the end of it.

We still have an uneven playing field out there in Science Land. The Spirit of Scientific Inquiry is not really practiced today by many mainstream science practitioners and information distillers. What is widely practiced is bowing low to The Spirit of Government Grant Renewal, and the unfortunate, irrational worship of Establishment Science.

Scientists make the bald-faced claim aliens don’t exist, even though there’s a case to be made that scientists are aliens themselves, living on a planet full of aliens, exploring space beyond their host world.

We also can make an argument of “absolute nonsense” when this group worshippers of establishment scientist make public proclamation of how intelligent ETs should and would not behave. Dismissing the existence of ETs because they act like magic and don’t live up to our standards of behavior is funny when you think of it.Yeah, we laugh at their irrational claims, but we keep letting scientists and debunkers get away with it.

It is a sad state of affairs when ridicule, fear and persecution are orchestrated not by religious fanatics and their dogma, but by scientists.

DVD Phoenix Lights And Mainstreme Voodo Science:



The only way a worldview outside the narrow one dictated by the Science establishment can be investigated in real time – with expensive instruments, in the presence of physical evidence-- is through independent research funding, like that lately provided MUFON by insightful multimillionaire Robert Bigelow, or a commercial TV program like “UFO Hunters” who spend money for ratings.


Many of you know about Chuck Wade from Roswell and his attemps to have his material from The San Augusta UFO crash tested,…if not read UFOMM posts:
http://ufomedia.blogspot.com/2009/03/has-roswell-proof-finally-emerged-part_13.html

http://ufomedia.blogspot.com/2009/03/has-roswell-proof-finally-emerged-part_383.html


Chuck was an engineer by profession, a good family man who worked hard and paid his dues. But Chuck was part of a town that was never given its due by the media, the debunkers, and even some UFO researchers: Roswell.

Chuck and others came forward to say what they found could be the real UFO beef everyone’s been waiting for, but their pleas for proper inquiry were largely ignored.

And this highlights another major conflict in the UFO truth quest: a class of witnesses we should pay special attention to, the aptly yet sadly group known as Death Bed Witnesses. These Americans about to meet the God they believe in, feel it is essential to clear their hearts of a terrible burden and tell their families of a secret they were sworn by their government to not divulge.

Why don’t we give the death bed testimonials of UFO witnesses the respect and evidentiary consideration they merit? These witnesses have nothing to gain on this earth by coming forward, no book tour, no TV interview, no time to build a McMansion or squander a giant media fee on the roulette wheels in Vegas…yet we fail ourselves and humanity’s future when we denigrate the death bed testimonials.

The special burden of the deathbed witnesses is a burden they swore to keep, and most witnesses took their official oaths of secrecy so seriously, they never shared their testimony or evidence with spouses, much less UFO researchers. Yet the death bed witnesses’ burden was the most fantastic news ever shared with humankind: the news that we are not alone in the Universe.

Among these confessions was the first-hand truth about how a ship from space crashed in Corona with little creatures aboard.

Just as with all of the more startling UFO information cases, except for some initial sensationalism, the Roswell-Corona witnesses barely get a yawn from all but the pro-Roswell factions among UFO researchers.
DVD Clip Intelligen Flares All Over The World!



Of course we also get the slight-of-hand distraction from the debunkers, but they’re singing to the nothings-true-till-we-say-so choir.

So again, let’s remember with gratitude Chuck Wade and others, who took precious days out of their retired lives, days where most retirees are playing golf, traveling, or taking the grandkids to the big game, to seek an answer for the rest of us.


Chuck’s predesasor Art Campbell after decades of trying to put the pieces together on a certain UFO crash site finally mapped out where witness testimony said the crash material would be. Campbell dug, and he found --in the middle of nowhere-- an aluminum pieces and other material that should not be. His work in this debris field is known in UFO history as the San Augusta crash site. Chuck eventually joined him and now we have promising investigation with no ending.

The aluminum was a composite material they found was not made by any commercial manufacturer. As an aluminum compositionally it didn’t even make any sense. Throughout the structure of this particular aluminum sample were iron and silica. The sample’s heavy metal -- iron-- should have sunk by its own weight to the bottom of the aluminum during manufacture, according to the laws of good old gravity. But no, there it was, latticed throughout the host metal.
Testing showed this material deserved further inquiry. But what the owner of the sample got was just a superficial analyses. Case Closed?

What you don’t know is that when I was putting together the posts “Has Roswell Evidence Finally Emerged?” Parts 1 and 2, I’d hoped this case’s material evidence was testing out POSITIVE: NOT OF EARTH MANUFACTURE.

My experience with this material came about at the International UFO Congress. I kept bugging a good friend to come with me to a UFO conference. He works for a top company in the nano-tech field. My friend had personal experience with UFOs --what he describes as his most astounding-- after we met. He had called me from the car after the incident, where, along with his whole family, he had witnessed the “craft”. So he came to the Congress with a new level of interest. At the Congress, witness Chuck Wade was being interviewed by overseas meida shows, and also, Joshua Warren a skeptic but a strong advocate for further testing on Chuck’s artifacts included in his Presentation on ”Physically Faking UFOs”, included the peculiar behavior in a electrostat of the material Chuck supplied him. Warren announced he be would testing the material on a deeper level because of this experience.

Chuck Wade was not hesitant in offering the samples to the researchers he knew could really help get the puzzle of the UFO crash field metal sample solved. Chuck won my respect right away with that attitude. My friend --with the nano-tech lab-- also believed Chuck Wade was for real, whatever the outcome of the crash field metal. So with a little prodding on my part, my buddy had some pieces shipped to him. Because of the depressed economy, my friend’s company wasn’t overbooked; they had the time to run complete tests.

We all knew, that given this company’s prestige, if they took the field metal analysis on, the answer would be definitive.

At first it looked very promising. My friend showed a sample to his peers and they seemed interested. Sample fragments in hand now, they wanted to look at past test results. After they review the earlier lab results, further tests seemed to be greenlighted. I was very pleased with the way it was turning out.

But someone at the company with the final authority shot it down. Maybe the decision not to test the material wasn’t the latest scandal in a big conspiracy… maybe it’s just the ongoing business as usual vis-à-vis anything connected with the UFO subject.

However, we still have the intrepid investigator, young Joshua P. Warren, continuing with his own effort to get this material analyzed by a recognized facility. We should all be grateful for Warren’s foresight and integrity. I thank my friend from the nano-lab, too, for going the extra mile, while thousands stand by and do...nothing.

But this is not the end of the line for me on Chuck Wade and Art Campbell’s samples. I intend to continue promoting this evidence and have it looked at by real scientists, not the talking heads of science. I refuse to just move on, as others in the community seem all too willing to do.

And there are real scientists out there; some of the people at my friend’s company fit that bill, even encased as they are within the prison of the corporate and science establishment’s stale mindset their curiousty was inticed.


Someday soon I hope to help write the final chapter on Campbell and Chuck Wade’s testimony and material. But “Evidence” Part 3, will have to wait.
I believe right now the UFO question is about to be settled and we will be right...not because we are so insightfull, but because we have witnessed. And what many of us have witnessed including some men who have gone into space is like nothing we have on here earth.

Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non Commercial Blog