UFO Pragmatism: Killing The Messenger

You used to laugh about everyone who was hanging out…Now you don’t talk so loud…Now you don’t feel so proud, after having to be scrounging your next meal…
- Dylan

[Chuck Wade Roswell Artifact Update: His material is in the hands of of a company which will prove one way or the other whether it is of earthly origins. The results, no matter what they show, will be presented on my blog UFO Media Matters.]

What’s the number one reason UFOs are a topic on TV all over the globe now?
Is it because of Stanton Friedman? “Bad Astronomy”? MUFON? Richard Dolan? Edgar Mitchell? The “UFO Hunters” show?

The number one reason UFOs are still a topic of news and TV shows is --God love ‘em-- is the UFO witnesses. The UFO witnesses have the power to move us with their courage and their vulnerability
The witnesses have always been the catalyst, the focus of interest in the UFO subject.

Recently, a pilot with decades of experience reported seeing two-mile-long UFOs, and a second commercial aircraft confirmed this astounding sighting. What happened was everyone sat up, the media saw ratings and covered it, and of course, the debunkers trotted out their standard lines and debunked it.

So if that’s what debunkers said about professional pilots, what would happen if a farmer out in his field reported these two-mile-long objects-- maybe even took a cell phone picture of them? Do you think there is a possibility that this person, especially if he received air time, would be attacked inside our UFO research community? Would it be too much of a stretch to say the person’s social and professional status might be brought up, maybe derided, even by our own community?

And there is another matter we need to look at when our ufology community starts to put witnesses in their cross-hairs; the lack of witness empathy.
I think I understand why some UFO researchers who have had their own UFO experiences seem to attack the more sensational strange cases with the same stance and language used by debunkers.

I just have to believe that the researchers’ sightings were quite mundane --maybe like a light that didn’t behave itself, or a craft sighted far away.
I just can’t believe those researchers who find it impossible to imagine certain cases could be true from diverse and strange witness encounters ... have had profound encounters themselves.
I believe unless you personally have the kind of UFO experience that literally rips the fabric of your own belief system, your empathy for more bizarre UFO experiences will, understandably, be lacking.

Unfortunately this attitude has harmed many honest UFO experiencers.

My own case, although a close encounter in nature, was not so bizarre. Stay with me on this. Yes, it was two flying saucers, but they were symbols of something I could understand --superior technology, maybe, something I could get my head around in science. I came into the UFO scene with that mindset.

But when I read a report on Peter Davenport’s NUFORC about some forest rangers seeing a elk being levitated into the craft and the craft actually becoming larger as the animal went inside, I had to come to the conclusion that they were either lying or… I had to rethink what future technology could possible do. Thank God, if you allow yourself to, you can grow.

I just spoke with an individual involved with people I respect in the UFO community but, he said something that made me wonder how much he knew about the history of UFOs and the witnesses who see them. We were talking about the Billy Meiers case.
He was saying he proved, using Photoshop, that Meiers faked a photo. I told he could not claim without the negatives. He replied.

“Billy said the negatives were stolen…how convenient”.

I thought, only a person who had limited knowledge of the history of UFOs in the modern era would assume Meiers was lying.
In my post “UFO Missing Evidence” Parts One and Two, I show how a great deal of UFO evidence has been missing, stolen outright, or the originals “never returned”.
http://ufomedia.blogspot.com/2008/07/missing-ufo-evidence-part-one.html

http://ufomedia.blogspot.com/2008/07/missing-ufo-evidence-part-two.html

Then there’s another consideration: couldn’t ETs steal evidence, too?

Just recently MUFON had a article in their monthly journal pointing out how in Police Officer Lenny Zamora’s famous UFO landing report, (which included small humanoid occupants) photos taken almost right after the event were given to Project Blue Book and were never returned. Project Bluebook’s official explanation that entered into UFO history claimed the photos were foggy from radiation and therefore, no good. But if this is true, those photos are important evidence.

At Gilliland Ranch, debunkers have an evidence problem: too much evidence in the hands of too many witnesses --thousands.

But it does get sticky: part of this locale’s UFO phenomena seems to include telepathic connection. Even this extraordinary phenom is not so rare in the history of ufology and witness experience. Another frequent phenom is the transformation of an individual witness into a kind of guru --like James Gilliland-- who is imparting messages claiming ETs are spiritually advanced.

Gilliland was at first dismissed by the Pragmatic Certainty crowd as being a hoaxer or a New Age nut. But Gilliland’s dismissal by both UFO researchers and debunkers as a hoaxer is pretty damn meaningless now that thousands of human visitors to his ranch over the last few years have themselves seen --and documented with still and video images-- the impossible. Now Gilliland’s attackers have faded away and are hunting better pickin’s.

Gilliland has been recorded predicting specific times when the UFO craft will appear. They often do. No matter what you believe about him, he has shown us the beef.

Now that Gilliland can no longer be whipping boy for debunkers and UFO skeptics crying HOAX, the naysayers and witness suppression factions are working overtime to destroy or impinge the character of anyone who comes forward with a sensational UFO report. This is a type of mind control in itself.

UFO researchers claim that this is a service. That if they prove a particular incident could be faked, then it was faked. Why?

Does the human person not count in this? Most witnesses are not getting paid, don’t want their names out there, and maybe the most revealing characteristic the debunkers would have us ignore is that nearly all witnesses seem frightened.
Sadly, out of the gate, these issues are discounted by well-meaning people on the non-ending quest for validity in the scientific world.

One tip…don’t hold your breath for validity among scientists.

I decided to design a test. I highlighted a case on YouTube that no one could prove one way or the other as a certain fake, reason being, the video was not good. The researcher was at a TV station and was allowed to record the incident off a TV screen. If you read some of the comments the debunkers and those who believe and have an experience treat this witness basically the same. They also assume authority, telling us in absolute language how it was done and what it is…according to them.



These are You Tube comments on my channel from what I call The Certainty Crowd:

“This is faked, 1st object appears crossing the yard. Seems to bounce off ground twice. resembles baseball bat. 2nd Object appears 6 minutes later two sticks hinged at the top representing legs. Takes the exact same path as the first object”

4 minutes is set up time for the next dummy. There is definatly 2 dummies (beings) being used here. Pay attention to the route that (angle) the dummies move with relation to the digital readout of the clock. This is definatley faked. I'm not saying the owner of the house did it, somebody was probably playing a trick on him, maybe the next door neighbors. Knowing that he would freak out and call somebody

“Poor quality video. It's a security camera, they are known for lack of quality. What I am talking about is the angle of movement (which is 4 minutes apart) is EXACTLY THE SAME. The digital readout of the clock reads 12: 42: ^ 48 for the first being and 12: 46: ^ 48 for the second being. THE ^ character denotes the position where both being pass the readout of the clock. It is theoretically imposible for two beings to walk the exact same path 4 minutes apart.”


In the second YouTube I posted, you can see that most of the debunking rhetoric was way off base. My reason for doing this was not to prove this particular record of this particular incident was real, rather, it was to prove that this Certainty Principle Crowd are not only full of hot air, they also reflect a tone devoid of compassion.



I ask, has there been credible reports by good witnesses on the following:
UFO craft?
Small creatures associated with these craft?
Abductions?
Mental Contact?

One of three ET photos taken by 8 year old child the parents would no longer cooperate:

Why do we keep actively or passively investing in the culture of UFO witness devaluation? If you believe some or even most of the above elements reported in many UFO reports are possibly true, why automatically assume your objective is to prove the witness wrong?

If you believe rigid thinking doesn’t influence outcome, go to a court of law any day and watch hired scientists --hired guns with charts, graphs, CVs and PhDs-- duke out the evidence on both sides of the question.

Why is it that for sixty years, all of these videos and photographs are suspect, and the witnesses who shot them held in contempt, even though no clear motive for fakery was found except in the rarest handful of cases?

I address these issues because you can see the clash of egos all around us. I think we all have to look at how our egos help and hurt the UFO research community.

I really believe that we have a duty to promote the integrity of most of the witnesses who come forward. They are not Hoaxers.

I know science is what drives us forward, but what I see being practiced today relates not to science, but to a rigid prejudice among researchers, and to a strange need among our own ufology community to control not only the message about UFOs, but to control which messenger is accorded credibility.

Read some of the follow-ups on these cases, do the homework.
Researchers ask yourself some crucial follow up questions before:
1. What it is about a certain case that closes my mind to the possibility it is real?
2 .Do I automatically, because of the nature of the witness report, social status or race begin with the attitude “this is a hoax”
3. Do I try and prove my own hypothesis wrong.
4. Do I attack the witness in a public forum before I have all the facts in.

In the most sensational cases, if we dig we find out that once the notoriety dies down, the witnesses who were so salaciously debunked --the Hills and Travis Watsons out there-- their actions do not in any way reflect the profile of a hoaxer. Many times their, life after the experience, reflects seclusion and bitterness at some of us.

DVD Clip Faces Of ETs
(International UFO Congress; Maussan Presenter)



Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

Has Roswell Proof Finally Emerged? Part 1

Has Roswell Proof Finally Emerged? Part 1 of 3

After all this time, after hoaxes and heartbreak, have pieces of a Roswell space ship really been found?

What I love about this story --if it turns out to be real-- is how the face of Providence couldn’t have shone on a more deserving person to make this discovery public.

Most people haven’t heard of Chuck Wade. I learned about him through my good friend Gary. Chuck Wade’s father owned the Wade Bar in Corona N.M. from 1934 until 1976 he passed away in 1978. Chuck’s father was alone one day, standing at the door of the bar, when his friend Mac Brazel drove up in his truck. Mac Brazel told Jesse Wade: “To come and go with him, that what he found out there on the pasture was unlike anything he had ever seen”.

Jesse Wade said he couldn’t close the bar and didn’t accompany his friend. Mac Brazel was about to walk into one of the great firestorms of history, and Jesse Wade would later tell his son he regretted his decision to stay behind “the rest of his life.” However that might had been a bad move Mac was kidnap by the military and held for days.
Ohooo what a MUGAL can do to you. 

But the stories Jessie heard, standing behind the Wade Bar for more than three decades after the Roswell crash, affected him forever. You see, what the debunkers and even some prominent UFO researchers don’t get is this: Roswell, like any other small town, tends to be very protective of its natives when it comes to keeping secrets from outsiders. Anyone who’s lived or traveled out West knows this is doubly true where people have to depend on each other in an unforgiving landscape, where basic survival against drought and extreme heat and animal predators is much tougher than we could imagine back eastin the inner city. That kind of land builds a different kind of close community spirit outsiders never understand. My grandfather was a farmer and my mother grew up on a farm. I lived their lives every day in stories when I was young and they fit the Roswell personality profile so well.

And another thing both debunkers and some Ufologists still don’t get: Roswell citizens know that the involvement in this case wasn’t just about one brave man and his family. There were other Roswell witnesses, and, like most folks out West, and in small faming communities they just didn’t want the notoriety. They were private people and would never talk to strangers.

All this was confirmed to me by the granddaughter of Floyd and Loretta Proctor, who owned a ranch near The Brazel place. Mac Brazel had brought some of the material he recovered from the crash he discovered to them. The Proctors’ granddaughter had attended a small conference that has run for millions of years “Earth Mysteries UFO/ ET Congress” in NJ, where I met her. She said something interesting after she explained how strange the material was. She said many of her neighbors know a great deal more, but they’ll never tell it to outsiders.

Now here’s something I found most interesting about Chuck Wade. Chuck been interested even as a child about UFOs. Considering where he grew up and who he was I would be surprise if he didn’t, he became an engineer and when he retired his real obsession Alternative Energy grew out of that interest he explains it simply.

“My passion for alternative energy grew out of my desire to know how extraterrestrial crafts are propelled.”

Almost a given with Chuck. He believes energy should be free to everyone… an energy that could end the need for war or hunger.

Like many of you reading this, I’ve been disappointed when material that purportedly came from UFOs turns out to be nothing, or shows minor anomalies that end up getting labeled ‘inconclusive’.

Chuck wasn’t from this school of contemplation. Chuck picked up a shovel and dug!

Before I make it sound simplistic, Chuck certainly did his research, partnered with the right people and he believed the good witnesses around his area and those out there in the trenches doing research. When they spoke of other saucer crashes. He believed and others believed. Chuck believed them because he had been around people just like them all his life.

Chuck also believed Walter Hault and Col. Philip Corso basic statements on some of theses crashes. The statements sat well with what he heard and learned for decades .

There were other people who had come forward some he had not met … former resident James P. Ragsdale, a Roswell witness who, back in 1947, was employed by an oil company and living in Carlsbad N.M..

James Ragsdale, along with his friend, watched in amazement when a disk crashed close by. It was not a large craft, and Ragsdale and his friend went right to the site. Ragsdale actually handled the entities --sorry Nick, they weren’t dwarves-- while trying to remove the headgear. Jim Ragsdale talks about the strange, large head and big black oval eyes. Ragsdale was at the crash site for not long as he remembered before the military arrived, This was odd in itself how did the military get there so fast.(of course mission time was never even thought back then) His accounts were detailed thorough he and his friend knew what they were looking at out there on the forest wasn’t human, and the craft wasn’t made by the US Military.

Nearly all the people in the Roswell region who handled and took away the crash material at James’s site are dead now, some tragically. Interestingly, James himself had crash material in his truck when it was stolen.
Remember, this was 1947, a time and a place in America where people didn’t steal each other’s automobiles or take property out of people’s cars. It was a time when no one locked their doors at home -- much less, their vehicle. And another point: in a population as small as Roswell’s back in 1947, a stolen truck would stand out like…a crashed flying saucer. Ragsdale’s truck, along with or without the crash material, was never found.

There are lots of approaches to hunting the truth. You can stay home and think about it, you can buy books and videos, go to a conference and listen to experts from opposing camps. Chuck went to a UFO conference and met a man presenting about another crash. Art Campbell a researcher from another state who through years of research had located the very site he had look for so long. Chuck writes to me about how he met Art and the “artifacts”:
(Art)“located the 1947 UFO crash site on the Plains of San Augustin in west central New Mexico, about 200 miles from Roswell. Mr. Campbell was a presenter at the 2004 UFO Symposium in Aztec, New Mexico, where he showed artifacts that he had retrieved from the UFO that crashed on the Plains in 1947. After this presentation Art and I became friends and Art invited me to be part of a “dig” in 2004 and again in 2005. Both of these digs produced additional UFO
artifacts.
Chuck Presents His Case At Various UFO Conferences:



Before the debunkers go off on a tangent and say scientist would be ready and willing to test this stuff anytime. I would like to give you the real matrix pill on this. It’s not going to happen.It is hard work to get anyone to listen to you when you talk alien spaceship. Both Chuck And Art Campbell did have success in testing thir “Artifacts”. But despite surprising results on both test nothing was really done till now.
Part 2 Goes Up 3/18/09
Lab Results And Skeptics Shocking Test!

Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

Has Roswell Proof Finally Emerged? Part Two

"you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows" Dylan

What was the true significance of these tests mentioned last post?

Chuck Wade, the Corona, NM resident with recovered Roswell-associated UFO crash material I introduced in the last post, is very good at putting the crucial question and the results simply. So I’ll let him do it:

“The question is, what makes the foils that we retrieved from the UFO crash on the Plains of San Augustin so unusual? Normal kitchen aluminum foil must be at least 98.5% aluminum, or it is rejected. The foil that we have is 91% aluminum, 6% iron particles, and 3% silicon particles. Per the American Aluminum Association, which has published all the known formulas for manufactured aluminum foils, our foils do not even come close to any known aluminum foil formula.

The iron and silicon particles are dispersed evenly from top to bottom through the visible cross-section. What is important about these particles being dispersed evenly is: a particle of iron is much heavier than the same volume of liquid aluminum. When you introduce a heavy particle of iron into liquid aluminum, the heavy particle would be pushed toward the bottom due to the push of gravity. The only way these heavy iron and silicon particles could be suspended evenly throughout the cross-section is for the foil to be produced in zero gravity. What method was used to manufacture these foils is a mystery to the experts! I have asked experts and they can only guess.”

Test Results:
'click photo for enlargement'

This evidence, remember, was given a yawn by influential members of the UFO community for four years.

Now comes a guy I’m going to call the young skeptic with a good heart: Joshua P. Warren. Joshua’s been a star, consultant, and producer of TV specials and series on paranormal investigation, so he’s recognized all over the US. Joshua’s running a contest that’s gotten quite a bit of exposure, too. Contestants have to produce --under strict guidelines-- a very cheaply built, floating on its on power, UFO. And that’s a hoaxed UFO.

Lift is an important factor, so is believability. Video about Joshua’s hoax-it-yourself UFO contest will follow at the end of the post. Pretty cool if you ask me.

Joshua received some of the artifacts from Chuck Wade. Joshua starts to fool around with the fragments and….voila !

The next video is from the DVD Joshua P. Warren Physically Faking UFOs, from his presentation at the 18th Annual International UFO Congress 2009:



So now Joshua’s hooked on this metal that meant nothing to so many --and everything to a few.

One of the great wonders of the UFO community are the people like Chuck Wade, the grassroots people who, by coming forward, first change the debate, and then change the world.

I remember back in the 50s and 60s, and even today, all the laughter the debunkers generate over the “farmers and country bumpkins that see UFOs.” What a chuckle mainstream news had, led by the inescapable logic of the debunkers. But now, after forced release through the FOIA, what do we find in those US Government documents? We find out that what our good ol’ boys and gals --the country “bumpkin Americans”-- were reporting exactly what our highly trained, most experienced American military pilots were chasing...and getting documented on radar.

Plenty of UFO researchers complain about Roswell, calling it old news. But why is it OK to dismiss witness testimony and physical evidence delivered by solid members of a small community --just because the witnesses live in a rural area?

I’m tired of watching UFO researchers join the professional debunkers and the know-nothings, taking the easy way out by making good American communities the butt of stupid jokes.

Hey, city slickers! Strong people with determination for a just cause can move mountains, and planets from the center of the universe.
OK, so I’m a city slicker, too, but I know there’s a lot more truth in the streets and the small country towns and ranches of America than there is in the Pentagon, the Congress, and most of our corporate boardrooms today. Not to mention the newsrooms.

In our parade of flashy conference-going, increasingly organized ufologists, maybe we all need a dose of humility. We need to identify with the kind of humility and persistence evidenced by the unassuming people of Roswell and Corona, who kept on keeping on, as caretakers of eye-witness reports and physical evidence through two and three generations. Maybe emulating these brave witnesses will help us better educated, credentialed-up, ufology pros and wannabes move the mountains of coverup and BS out there. We all need to learn to trust the everyday people to tell the truth about what they’re seeing.

Now we have young people like Joshua redefining what a skeptic may mean, at least within this community.

Now, I’m going to get real personal. I met a witness once on an investigation who I felt lied to me. But I found out he actually was experiencing what he said he was, and more. I was very shocked at myself. Because I didn’t see, even with all my years as a professional counselor, the simple reason why an individual who asked for help would lie about this type of experience.

We found out what the witness was seeing was even more unbelievable than what he was telling us. We found out he was telling the truth when we the field investigators began to experience some of what the witness reported on site, and as he pointed.

But by the time this field investigators understood his own bias, the witness --whose location was still full of investigation-worthy phenom-- didn’t want to see us anymore.

He was scared.

Joshua Warren has pointed out something very important:
We cannot discount the most outlandish claim…because we really don’t know what is on the other side.

I have stressed this principle in these posts. And I’ll add a principle of my own:
We must never limit our imagination about what future technology could do.

And let me expand on that last idea: I think we need to understand that future technology may be more amazing in its simplicity than in its complexity.

Getting back to the physical evidence, we know there is a bottom line: is this crash material of Chuck Wade’s human technology, or technology from elsewhere?

It does look promising. Will adding celebrity --and serious-- paranormal investigator Joshua Warren to the mix produce a definitive answer about what this material is and what it is not?

What was this strange aluminum doing under a few inches of earth in the middle of the desert…two hundred miles from nowhere?

The answer may not be far off now. I want to go on record here: I cannot reveal all the details. And I may not ever be able to reveal some of what is going on with this research.

But I’ll move on to another breaking topic, because Part Three will not be posted until a definitive answer has been reached.

I’ll close with a DVD clip: Joshua Warren demonstrates how easy it is to fake a UFO. There are hoaxers and we should be on the lookout, especially when money is involved.
Joshua also states that many UFO sightings are probably not faked. Also Warren goes out on at “International Congress” night vision scopes with Ed Grimsley.

See:
http://ufomedia.blogspot.com/2009/03/do-you-want-to-see-ufo.html

DVD International UFO Congress: "Physically Faking UFOs"






Joe Capp
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http://www.joshuapwarren.com/
http://ufocongress.com/registration.html

Do You Want To See A UFO

UFO Media Matters Exclusive: Now You Can!
DVD Clips Below

[The Roswell piece Has Roswell Evidence Finally Emerged” Part 1 was pulled because of factual mistakes I made on the landing spot where the pieces where recovered. Part 1 Plus Part 2 will run next week together. I am sorry to everyone for MY mistake. Chuck was wonderful with it and I will work with him to make sure it is accurate.]

The one time in my life I witnessed Unidentified Flying Objects, they were so close and in such a clear daylight sky that I couldn’t even rationalize it away. I thought … this is a once in a lifetime experience!
Well, I was wrong; it has happened to me again… but this time I went looking for them. Although these craft were witnessed at night, they were no less convincing and spectacular.

How would you like to see a UFO… not by accident… but on purpose?

On Thursday, February 28th 2009, I saw dozens of crafts fly over a locally known scenic view, near Laughlin, Nevada ( hardly your UFO hotspot).

The person showing us around this nightspot was Ed Grimsley, a pioneer, and all time good person. Now, not a lot of people believed Ed at first, but they do now. Ed basically said anyone can see UFOs with the right equipment. They only hide in the visible light.

These excursions into the night were sponsored by the 2009 International UFO Congress. Ed received room and tickets to the conference for his nightly adventures. The purchase of the very costly eight night-vision scopes came out of Ed’s pocket/
Thanks to Mr. Grimsley, one of my lifelong dreams has been fulfilled 20 times over.
That dream was to see another genuine UFO craft before I passed.
Not only did we see single objects, we saw groups of objects. They changed directions; they would hover; they would accelerate at great speed.
When I was a young man I had my own scope and was an amateur astronomer. I know what planets, stars and meteors look like. “these sirs… were not none of those” I am not saying everyone is going to see what we saw… because given time, you’ll probably see more.

I want one like these. night-vision scopes.

“Old man Shouts at Cloud” nope. “Old Man shouts at UFOs”

After an instruction period on what a plane looks like and not to wave at them with the laser we headed out in each group. My friend was the first to spot a craft. A retired scientist, he looked in amazement as a long cylinder which he estimated to be a mile to a mile half across, was moving in the sky. As he shouted to the others, and used his laser to point, he mentioned it stopped moving The other scopes focused on a still tube- like object hovering for a few seconds…then to our delight ithe damn thing started to travel again. You could hear the shouts as everyone followed along. Remember, most of the time you would not see these crafts without the aid of the scopes. You would look up at the night sky and see nothing.
But this was just the beginning. We started to see round crafts that would make their way across the sky much higher than any jet. Then, when you figured they must be satellites, you’d find out you were wrong… they would hover or make, what I would call, a solid course correction.
But it was from 30 Degrees above the horizon that we really got a show we would never forget. An object you could see without the use of the scopes started to move up above the horizon and towards us. We all put our scopes on it and then, when we knew what it was not, we pointed at it with our lasers. It seemed like an oval type ship with luminescence. I shouted and waved. I figured something aboard must be controlling it. The lasers hit it again, and wouldn’t you know it, the craft picked that time to display brightly and then rolled and accelerated in another direction. We all shouted out with excitement at the same time. I followed the craft with the scope for about 12 seconds. It started going down toward the horizon and then it changed direction back toward us when I finally lost it.
We witnessed groups of two, three, four, and six traveling together in unison. Sometimes a group would stop in unison and hover only to start again together.
It was well worth the…oh, that’s right, you didn’t have to pay anything…there goes the “well they’re all in it for the money” theory.”
A very good friend of mind (thanks Paul), did the leg work for you.
Here is the Do’s and Don’ts of buying the right scope for this adventure.
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AN-PVS-7 / Generation 3 Night Vision Binoculars by NIGHT OPTICS USA, Inc. is the company that makes the ones we used in Nevada. There is a similar type of night vision binoculars by a company called ATN. The binoculars look very similar but I'm told that Night Optics USA is the brand to get. Either way they both use the same type of tube used for Night Vision technology. I was told to stay away from ATN due to reliability issues.
Generation 2 Generation 3

1.) Tube Lifetime - 2500 - 5000 hours 10,000 hours

2.) Photo Response - 500 1800

3.) Price - $2999.99 $3749.99

4.) Magnification 1x (3x or 5x optional) 1x (3x or 5x optional)

5.) Resolution 45 to 64 lp/mm 64 to 72 lp/mm

6.) Recognition Range 656' 984'

7.) Camera/Camcorder Adaptable- No ( Ed Grimsley duck taped a camcorder to one and it worked fine)

EXPORT RESTRICTIONS
While all Gen 3 and some Gen 2+ require export licenses, all night vision products are subject to United States Export rules and regulations. Valid export licenses may be issued by the U.S. Department of Commerce or the U.S. Department of State, Directorate of Defense Trade Controls, in accordance with the International Traffic in Arms Regulation (ITAR), Title 22, Code of Federal Regulation 120-130. Consult Night Optics USA, Inc. They are always willing to help!


*Beware of purchasing used Night Vision Binoculars. I'm told that some people are putting Generation 3 parts on a Generation 2 unit and selling them as Generation 3. Lots of scams out there so BEWARE. It's also recommended to ask how many hours are on the unit prior to purchasing. If the tube needs to be replaced it can cost nearly as much as the used unit.
Remember It is unlawful to take any of these scopes out of the country.

I hope someday to have a “UFO Scope News”. You could make it happen
Good Luck,


Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
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